Releasing USA + Brazil

[monkora]

Hi the USA and Brazil have cores on countries that GB owns. Now I'm at war with GB but seem unable to ask them to release them as nations, how come? I also have provinces with USA cores but can't release them as a vassal.

I've searched and I see the cultural has to be historically accurate, but the potential capital (Manhattan) that GB owned was English in culture yet I still didn't have the option to make them release it.

If someone could help me out that'd be great.

Thanks.

 

[Fronzel]

USA has American culture, which I don't think can appear unless you start in 1783 or later.

 

[Restless Native]

USA has American culture, which I don't think can appear unless you start in 1783 or later.

This. Even if the cores are there you can't release a country unless the culture is correct. I believe it only has to be the capital with the correct culture but I'm not sure on this. In the grand campaign American culture doesn't exist and there is no way for it to come into existence, so they can only release through rebellion.
It's the same reason that if Teutonic Order annex Riga you can't force release as the capital has Prussian culture.

 

[DDRJake]

If what you want is for these countries to exist, obliterate the British Navy and let colonial rebels take over their overseas land. In 18 months or so after occupation these nations will rise up.

 

[EU3NOOB]

USA has American culture, which I don't think can appear unless you start in 1783 or later.

No, the year is 1764.

 

[Fronzel]

There really should be an event to flip English culture to American. It's what happened in reality, after all; after decades of separation and different ways of life the home-island British and the colonists diverged culturally.

However, American culture is in the British group and Great Britain is the British cultural union so not only would GB not get any penalty for the flip, they'd get a Nationalism CB on a released or revolted USA. Seems a bit broke all around.

 

[jdrou]

This. Even if the cores are there you can't release a country unless the culture is correct. I believe it only has to be the capital with the correct culture but I'm not sure on this. In the grand campaign American culture doesn't exist and there is no way for it to come into existence, so they can only release through rebellion.
It's the same reason that if Teutonic Order annex Riga you can't force release as the capital has Prussian culture.

The capital is irrelevant. It just needs to have at least one core with the correct culture.
As said though, the only way for the correct culture to appear in this case is by revolt.

Since that change was made to how countries can be released I think the events that give colonial cores should probably also change the culture but that could be a problem if someone other than the historical country has colonized those provinces.

 

[monkora]

Well that's annoying then, looks like I've started a pointless war. Thank you all for explaining the logistics to me however.

 

[monkora]

No, the year is 1764.

How do you find out the dates colonial rebels can start appearing from?

 

[jdrou]

How do you find out the dates colonial rebels can start appearing from?

common\rebel_types.txt
Colonial rebels should not appear before 1750.
Also the various colonial uprising events won't fire before 1750.