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I always wanted to play in the world of M&B in CKII
That's the main reason why I was started this thread for the mod! Imagine this: you're playing in multiplayer, with your friends :D!

By the way, does anyone know where we can find a volunteer to make a topology (height) map for us? If we have the topology, our map will look much cooler ;). And if you're willing to join our team for anything, feel free to ask so we can develop our mod faster!
 
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By the way, does anyone know where we can find a volunteer to make a topology (height) map for us? If we have the topology, our map will look much cooler ;). And if you're willing to join our team for anything, feel free to ask so we can develop our mod faster!

Your mod has been in a development over a year and you don't have a topology map? Anyhow I'm willing to give it a try, but I need to access to your rivers.bmp and terrain.bmp.
 

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In case you haven't seen this ;) :
That's a great video, thanks!

Your mod has been in a development over a year and you don't have a topology map? Anyhow I'm willing to give it a try, but I need to access to your rivers.bmp and terrain.bmp.
Well, I don't have much PhotoShop skills for topology and the other things. Plus we never find a volunteer for this. I'll send those maps and some Warband maps as well. If you have Warband and you can see the heights, that would be much more better.
 
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Developer Diary #5 - Part III: Republic of Rhodoks

- General
Sorry for beign this late, but I was have to go Antioch for my university things on Wednesday. So here we are, with a new developer diary about the great Republic of Rhodoks! - and his tributary kingdoms. First of all, about THE Republic... yes, they are Merchant Republics! Not all parts of Rhodoks of course.

- Politics
You see, King Graveth is a merchant overlord with a new title of: High King. Despite the title names of other tributaries from previous diaries, the Rhodok tributaries are calling as Kingdoms. High King Graveth of Casa de' Jelkala has the empire tier Republic of Rhodoks title for obvious.

And his rival in market is the Prince Mayor Gutlans o Clann Yalen, in Kingdom of Yalen. There is also most of your's favorite: the Kingdom of Veluca with leading King Matheas del Casa de Veluca, as feudal. But they all paying tributes to High King Graveth in Jelkala.

And King Matheas' younger brother Lord Kastor del Casa de Veluca (or simply Lord Kastor of Veluca as you may know) claims to he should be elected as the High King of all the Rhodoks while staying with his elder brother's side in Veluca. Let's take a look at what Rhodoks looks on the map in Crusader Kings II:

Political Map:


De Jure Kingdoms:


Governments:


And here's our pretender: Kastor del Casa de Veluca!


- Cultures & Religions
Rhodoks are in the same culture group with Swadians. Once was they were vassals under the King of Swadia and they have similiar cultures, but not so similiar. Almost all the Rhodoks are followers of their true path to the God: Calradic Pope in ancient city of Suno. Yet, some mountain tribes are still following the old traditions. They're the followers of Calradian Pantheon's pagan Gods from the old Empire's time. Yet, there are no big lords who's following those Old Gods. Let's see what cultures we have in Kingdoms and the Republic of Rhodoks:

Cultures:


Rhodok (Iberian Portraits):
Here's the original culture of Rhodoks. They're mainly living in Kingdom of Jelkala and the eastern Veluca including the Grunwalder Castle. Some of the Rhodoks living in eastern Veluca with the borders of Dhirim are following the Orthodox religion, except for the Grunwalder.

Velucan (Iberian Portraits):
They are the second main culture and biggest branch of original Rhodok culture. Yet, they're still equals in Calradian culture group with the other Swadian cultures. There are some Velucans who living in territory of Jelkala across the Prezzar River. You know where the name came from.

Highlander (Celtic Portraits):
They're the rivals for other Rhodok merchants. Most of them living around the mountains with defending against the Mountain Bandits. They and their cultural cousins are mainly merchants under the Grand Mayor in Yalen. You may see where their name came from.

Gleanntír (Celtic Portraits):
Gleanntírs are the cultural cousins of Highlanders. But they're mostly living in valleys surrounding by Northern Rhodok Mountains. Most of their territories are ruling by the Highlanders. Their name inspired from Gaelic words Gleann (Valley) and Tír (Country). Will they turn against their cousins and trying to be independent? Or will they stand together with their cousins against the false High King in Jelkala? That's up to you (and AI)!

Tribesman (Celtic Portraits):
They're the Mountain Bandits who came from the mountains and kicking out who's living in the vineyards (that sentence is actually originated from a Turkish proverb and I tried to translate it, lol). Most of the Tribesman are followers of Calradian Pantheon. There are also other followers of Calradian Pantheon from outside the Rhodok lands but that's the another dairy. You may see they're living as tribes.

There are no lots of cultures in Rhodoks because we're counting them with the Swadian culture and it's branches together in Calradian culture group like I said before.

Religions:


- Interesting Characters
High King Graveth del Casa de' Jelkala of the Republic of Rhodoks:


Grand Mayor Gutlans o Clann Yalen of the Kingdom of Tributary Yalen:


King Matheas del Casa de Veluca of the Kingdom of Tributary Veluca:


Duke Talbar del Casa de' Grunwalder of the Duchy of Grunwalder:


High Chief Etrosq o Clann Etrosq of the High Chiefdom of Etrosq:


- Nords Are Next!


As we promised! If I didn't went to Antioch, this diary was released before and you will reading the Nord diary right now. But hey, most of the Nord things are ready thanks to SBolshevik. See you in the next diary in a few days later!
 
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By the way, Tomi Mäkelä (Chlodio) joined our team to make a new physical map and height/topology map for us. You can see the old physical map and the flat terrain from our previous diaries. Thanks to him, his first works (which they're in alpha) has used in our Rhodok diary. And there are still lots of works to do on those maps.
 
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Are you going for a Spanish or Italian theme for the eastern Rhodoks? X del Casa de Y sounds very odd Spanish-wise. It should be X de Y, without the "del Casa". For example: Matheas de Veluca, Graveth de Jelkala.

If you'd like to keep the theme of having the family names be "Casa de X", then the "del" in "Matheas del Casa de Veluca" should be simply "de", or "de la". "De la" would be the more accurate wording, since "la" is the female definite article in Spanish. "Del" is a shortening of "de el", el being the male definite article in Spanish. Casa is a 'female' word, thus it uses "la" instead of "el". "De la" has no shortened version.
 
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Yeah, Rhodoks has Italian theme and Velucans has Spanish theme. Well, we're using full house names for our dynasty named titles. So we can't use only the "de Jelkala" for dynasty names.

I've searched a bit and I've found something like: Casa de' Medici etc. They should be like "King Harlaus 'of the' House 'of' Praven". I don't know much Spanish and I thought "del" is shortened for "de la".but if "X de la Casa de Y" is okay we can fix that "del" as well. Are they same in Italian?
 
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"del" is short for "de el". "el" and "la" are the masculine and feminine articles equivalent to "the" (there's no neutral gender in Spanish). "La" does not contract, so it should be "de la". I believe Italian does allow for "della" (of + fem. form of the) but my Italian isn't very good.
 
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Yeah, Rhodoks has Italian theme and Velucans has Spanish theme. Well, we're using full house names for our dynasty named titles. So we can't use only the "de Jelkala" for dynasty names.

I've searched a bit and I've found something like: Casa de' Medici etc. They should be like "King Harlaus 'of the' House 'of' Praven". I don't know much Spanish and I thought "del" is shortened for "de la".but if "X de la Casa de Y" is okay we can fix that "del" as well. Are they same in Italian?

"X de la Casa de Y" is good Spanish. And I believe "X della Casa di Y" is a correct Italian terminology. I am a native Spanish speaker, but I barely know any Italian (only the few things that you'd guess due to the similarity between the two languages), so don't trust me too much on the Italian part.
 
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"X de la Casa de Y" is good Spanish. And I believe "X della Casa di Y" is a correct Italian terminology. I am a native Spanish speaker, but I barely know any Italian (only the few things that you'd guess due to the similarity between the two languages), so don't trust me too much on the Italian part.
Okay, I will fix them both. And I think I can ask to my Italian friend to confirm it, thanks!
 
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Yeah, Rhodoks has Italian theme and Velucans has Spanish theme. Well, we're using full house names for our dynasty named titles. So we can't use only the "de Jelkala" for dynasty names.

I've searched a bit and I've found something like: Casa de' Medici etc. They should be like "King Harlaus 'of the' House 'of' Praven". I don't know much Spanish and I thought "del" is shortened for "de la".but if "X de la Casa de Y" is okay we can fix that "del" as well. Are they same in Italian?
You could also create your own pseudo-Italian/Spanish, there's no need to have the exact grammatical rules as real-life languages.

BTW, if the Rhodoks and Swadians are related, why is one naming structure Germanic and the other Latin? I would try to make it maybe some sort of a Germanic language/culture with heavy "Italian" influences- that would make sense. What do you think?
 
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By the way, if you don't like, you can always continue to work on your own mod named "Calradia Kings" with your bright and full of creative ideas ;).

Hey now don't be a bitch, i was about to give you congrats on continuing. That said its good to see something of substance going on i guess, @tsf4 good work mate ;)
 
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You could also create your own pseudo-Italian/Spanish, there's no need to have the exact grammatical rules as real-life languages.

BTW, if the Rhodoks and Swadians are related, why is one naming structure Germanic and the other Latin? I would try to make it maybe some sort of a Germanic language/culture with heavy "Italian" influences- that would make sense. What do you think?
They could merely be within the same cultural sphere - the Catholic countries of western Europe were, in a sense, in a single cultural entity.
 

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Hey now don't be a bitch, i was about to give you congrats on continuing. That said its good to see something of substance going on i guess, @tsf4 good work mate ;)
Well, what was happened was happened in the past. Actually, SBolshevik and we're doing well in the same team. Since you wanted to same thing with us, making a better Calradia for all of us, and if you also want to continue on that cause we will happy to see you standing with us and making Calradia best again.
 
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