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I really don't care where I get it from. If I can download before it's in stores here I'll download it.
Atm I'm thinking Impulse because I'd like to support stardock in their efforts.

What venue does PI like we use? Who's paying you the most per game? Also, downloadable games should be way cheaper than hard copies. If this isn't doable without losing shop sales. Don't sell in shops! That's gotto be a very low percentage for niche games like yours and so much trouble.
 

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I really don't care where I get it from. If I can download before it's in stores here I'll download it.
Atm I'm thinking Impulse because I'd like to support stardock in their efforts.

What venue does PI like we use? Who's paying you the most per game? Also, downloadable games should be way cheaper than hard copies. If this isn't doable without losing shop sales. Don't sell in shops! That's gotto be a very low percentage for niche games like yours and so much trouble.
Gamersgate would be it. It's related to Paradox.
 

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I hate steam, to much connection to him to play, better is gamersgate... And also i prefer a hard copy because sometimes my hdd burns... :D
 

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You don't need to be online to use Steam guys, please wrap your minds around this.

There is a huge difference between DRM-problems caused by the developer's choice of drm and purely Steam related issues.

Both Steam and Gamersgate work decent enough ;)
 

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Actually Steam is possibly one of the best pieces of gaming Software I've ever used, from what I hear it's on Sega/Creative's side that all the trouble is coming from when they decided to use it as a form of DRM and there sloppy ability to fix the game.

Yes I understand that Empire is bugged, not so much now after the new patch but that wasn't my point. Steam made people pay 10-15% more for the game to download it two days in advance. Then on the pre-load date said it would not happen, no refund no further information nothing. I do no trust Steam. I do trust Paradox, so I guess I'm in a bit of a paradox.......... I just truthfully hope that Paradox changes its mind.
 

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Yes I understand that Empire is bugged, not so much now after the new patch but that wasn't my point. Steam made people pay 10-15% more for the game to download it two days in advance. Then on the pre-load date said it would not happen, no refund no further information nothing. I do no trust Steam. I do trust Paradox, so I guess I'm in a bit of a paradox.......... I just truthfully hope that Paradox changes its mind.

Once again, that was sega's problem, not Steam's.
 

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Happy to have a 280GTX in my system.. It should hopefully run the game just fine..lol
 

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Add me to the list of those who plan on purchasing Hearts of Iron III in a retail box. (Complete with a nice paper manual, I hope!)

No Steam for me, thank you.
 

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Yes I understand that Empire is bugged, not so much now after the new patch but that wasn't my point. Steam made people pay 10-15% more for the game to download it two days in advance. Then on the pre-load date said it would not happen, no refund no further information nothing. I do no trust Steam. I do trust Paradox, so I guess I'm in a bit of a paradox.......... I just truthfully hope that Paradox changes its mind.

They did not make you pay extra to preload Empire. They never have charged extra for preloads and never will. They may have been a bit more expensive than some other stores running sales, but that's business. The extra money you paid had nothing to do with preloading.
 

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What on earth is everyone's problem with Steam?

It's a very good little programme; it's also the easiest way of playing online by far.
 

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Shitty "custumer service", first and foremost.
 

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So, how many of those who hate Steam have actually used it?

I have used it, but I don't hate it. I just prefer Gamersgate because I don't have to download unneeded programs to my computer.
 

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So, how many of those who hate Steam have actually used it?

I have used it, but I don't hate it. I just prefer Gamersgate because I don't have to download unneeded programs to my computer.

I have. There were much trouble from the get go. But the real horrible thing is how Rome customers were treated, I thankfully was not one of them.
 

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I've never understood this antipathy to steam... Its never caused me any problems, except when the game's producer messes up (SEGA!). Its easy to use, and its great for multiplayer games such as TF2.
ooops, we are going a bit off topic here....
 

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Steam made people pay 10-15% more for the game

Apparently this needs to be repeated until the sun becomes a red giant: Valve (the owners of Steam) DO NOT SET PRICES.

And if they try to undercut the retailers (esp. on a high profile title like Empire) they would stop carrying their games. And this would hurt since large chain stores have enormous market leverage.