Regencies are horrible

[tapewormlondon]

I hate regencies. No, I despise regencies. If I saw a regency on fire, I wouldn't urinate on it to put it out. That's how deep my hatred goes. Did I mention I don't like them?

The mechanic is pure tedium, and is truely out of the players control. It has to be changed. Three times in my current game I have had them, all for 12 years each weirdly. That's 36 years of no decs of war. Sitting around. Bored. So, so so bored.

Now I'm well aware you can gaurentee and warn and ally to try and get to war your target country, bit that doesn't work when your larger, as no one dares do anything to give you cause to attack!

Simply put, the mechanic has to be changed. I believe its one of the remaining mechanics from games gone past, where Pdox were striving for realism. Well realism blows. It serves no practical purpose other than to stall the player for x years.

TLDR: Regency mechanic is balls. Please change the way it works so the player can Dec war.

 

[Tyekanik]

Monarchy is already too OP compared with republics. Regency is a small pay for many other benefits.

 

[unmerged(13581)]

I strongly agree here. Regencies made me quit several games acutally. They are just not fun. I can somewhat understand why they are there but not beeing able to declare for 10+ years in a game that's all about war is just wrong.
I'd suggest to change them so that you can still declare war, but at a cost. Maybe have an increase in RR, lower troop morale, there could even be a seperate event file for being at war while in a regency packed with some nasty events. But the way it is handled right now it is not only boring, it's actually game breaking.

 

[Murmeldjuret]

Much more sense would be if they can't fabricate claims, but still declare war. Especially some types of war should always be available, even during personal union. It is kind of bananas that my Portuguese empire in PU under Spain can't DOW new world OPMs. Same goes for regencies. While it is understandable regencies can't DOW great powers for instance, or nations allied with great powers (they do have a responsibility to not threaten the nation they are going to give to the king), everything else should be up for grabs.

 

[StatikShocker]

irl regencies declared war all the time so... it makes no sense

 

[mocoman2001]

I strongly agree here. Regencies made me quit several games acutally. They are just not fun. I can somewhat understand why they are there but not beeing able to declare for 10+ years in a game that's all about war is just wrong.
I'd suggest to change them so that you can still declare war, but at a cost. Maybe have an increase in RR, lower troop morale, there could even be a seperate event file for being at war while in a regency packed with some nasty events. But the way it is handled right now it is not only boring, it's actually game breaking.

The game is not all about war, its also about preparing for war and managing the diplomatic field to give you an edge in war.

 

[Jorlaan]

The game is not all about war, its also about preparing for war and managing the diplomatic field to give you an edge in war.

True but removing the ability for regencies to declare war is just plain silly IMO. Regencies went to war all the time historically, I suppose I could find and post a whole whack of examples but that is not really needed as I think most of the people on these forums can think of at least 2-3 examples themselves.

I have never quit a game because of a regency and I think that is also silly. It will end eventually. Hell I am in early 1700's now with an Ethiopia game and I have been through 2 regencies lasting a total of about 20 years. My growth was not severely hampered and I spent the time upgrading my trade fleet and built a lot of buildings.

 

[unmerged(13581)]

The game is not all about war, its also about preparing for war and managing the diplomatic field to give you an edge in war.

That might be true to some extent, but that doesn't change the point - if I'm prepared for war and my king decides to die a week before I wanted to declare war, then I'm just sitting around with nothing to do for the next 10 years.

I have never quit a game because of a regency and I think that is also silly. It will end eventually. Hell I am in early 1700's now with an Ethiopia game and I have been through 2 regencies lasting a total of about 20 years. My growth was not severely hampered and I spent the time upgrading my trade fleet and built a lot of buildings.

You don't have to be at peace to do that though and I usually get bored when I don't get to fight anybody so I prefer to start a new game. I'm more into the early years of the game anyway though

 

[panionios]

1. Tough luck.
2. Considering the game spans approx. 400 years, 36 years is no reason to complain.

 

[tapewormlondon]

1. Tough luck.
2. Considering the game spans approx. 400 years, 36 years is no reason to complain.

No, it is reason to complain its nearly 10% of the full game time. But the time is almost irrelevant, the mechanic is rubbish, it CAN be improved, so why not do so?

Like someone above stated, add dynamic events related to war with regencies, other malus's, I dont care but stopping the player from doing any aggressive war what so over for what could be 14 years is utter toilet. You cant even do diplo, the relationship decay will set in 3-4 times over before you can put it to good use!

 

[tapewormlondon]

Monarchy is already too OP compared with republics. Regency is a small pay for many other benefits.

Then make republics slightly better, dont leave in a mechanic that is as pure tedium as regencies for monarchies!

 

[oblio-]

Regencies are kinda sucky, so that's why (partially) I'm playing a horde at the moment.

War! More war! And then even more war!
(just kidding, colonizing Siberia like mad right now )

 

[echolot]

Then make republics slightly better, dont leave in a mechanic that is as pure tedium as regencies for monarchies!

Yep. That's one of serious advantages of republics.

 

[Quintillius]

I never have gotten a regency in my current game. That's a benefit, playing as the Papal State. Ghehe.

 

[Schorsch30]

Yes remove regencies, ae, coalitions and everything that stops me painting the world in my colours before 1650...

 

[unmerged(13581)]

Yes remove regencies, ae, coalitions and everything that stops me painting the world in my colours before 1650...

Don't feed the troll they said.
Ah well, anyway - there's quite a difference between making it actually hard to paint the map your color and just saying "nah, you can't do anything right now. Here, wait another 10 years and then go on a full rampage again". So in other words, I acutally DO think that it should be overall harder to go on an expansion rampage that it is right now, but just not allowing you to do anything for 10 years is not making it any harder, it's just making it more boring.

 

[eugene171]

What about allies? and warnings? and Enforce Peace? and Defender of the Faith?

There's a number of ways to go to war besides the "Declare War" button, you just have to get creative

 

[Topsy Cret]

What about allies? and warnings? and Enforce Peace? and Defender of the Faith?

There's a number of ways to go to war besides the "Declare War" button, you just have to get creative

This.

Although I do think regencies should be able to declare war using the Trade Dispute CB, or at the very least still be able to declare war but not use any CBs. As someone already said, regencies went to war all the time, but not being able to use CBs would mimic the illegitimate nature of the whole affair.

 

[Casadoom]

Regencies should be able to use Trade Dispute and Diplomatic Insult casus beli. Also, we should be able to go through a small list of different regency councils to pick the best one for our needs. Paradox should also implement a coup d'etat event which will be more likely to occur when the heir is awful/low legitimacy.

 

[eugene171]

Regencies should be able to use Trade Dispute and Diplomatic Insult casus beli. Also, we should be able to go through a small list of different regency councils to pick the best one for our needs. Paradox should also implement a coup d'etat event which will be more likely to occur when the heir is awful/low legitimacy.

Hordes and Sunni nations (maybe more that I've not played) have events for these situations. Not sure about Europeans