If becoming a Duke gives me a Ducal Claim to all the counties in my de jure duchy, why doesn't becoming a King give me a Regal (Royal?) Claim to all the duchies in my de jure kingdom?
Regal Claims?
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I recommend you just offer vassalization to everyone in your De Jure realm -- usually by the time you're a king, almost all of them will accept.
Also, if I had to guess, it's balance.
Also, if I had to guess, it's balance.
I had the same question because as the king of Castille, once I got the kingdom of Aragon some of it had been taken by the HRE, and I can't even declare war on them for it without making another claim. Kinda weird.
Would you want the AI always having a claim on you whenever you take land from their de jure kingdom?
I think I understand why regal claims don't exist now.
Yes? if I took land in the HRE, I would expect the HRE to be able to attack me. If I am the king of Aragon, why don't I have a claim for land in Aragon?
Barony < County < Duchy < Kingdom < Empire
Between all these tiered entities in the game, only Duchy gives the right to attack (CB) on lower tier. Seems like design decision...
(Smallest entity, barony, cannot be independent of it's higher tier entity except for rebellion anyway. among the others, only Duchy can do)
Between all these tiered entities in the game, only Duchy gives the right to attack (CB) on lower tier. Seems like design decision...
(Smallest entity, barony, cannot be independent of it's higher tier entity except for rebellion anyway. among the others, only Duchy can do)
Not true, sometimes the one who owns the baronnies and the one who owns the county is two different people, who can be at war with each other.
Believe you get a county claim on foreign baronies, though.
Believe you get a county claim on foreign baronies, though.
Well I'm speaking only from game play experience, and I did not check this in game files so you are probably right... I have had a few rebelling barons when I revoked their titles in order to grant them to sons to get rid of prestige hit.
BTW I find it amusing that when his fief is revoked a mere baron with 216 troops defy his liege who has much more (1k or 2k troops, few allies such as France, HRE) and a war chest of 500 gold (=minimum 250 mercenaries or so). Perhaps he knows something we cannot grasp.
BTW I find it amusing that when his fief is revoked a mere baron with 216 troops defy his liege who has much more (1k or 2k troops, few allies such as France, HRE) and a war chest of 500 gold (=minimum 250 mercenaries or so). Perhaps he knows something we cannot grasp.
He has the choice between fighting or being forced to the streets, I would fight too. Perhaps a miracle will happen and others will take up arms?
Give you an example : yesterday me and the HRE were both at war with the same pagan. I got to the county first, took the capital, but lost that army to a counterattack. The HRE's army came in and took the baronies. When the HRE made peace, he took the baronies, and when I made peace, I took the county. I am now my liege's vassal as the King of Bohemia, but I am his de jure liege as to the baronies of Stettin.
I have a cassus belli to reclaim them, though I'll be damned if I'm going against the Emperor for two crummy baronies.
Very interesting story, never happened to me as I do not like having a liege and either start as independent or leave HRE/liege ASAP (though the Emperor sends his 10k courtiers and begs me to stay so I sometimes don't wanna break his heart and stay till the next civ war)I am now my liege's vassal as the King of Bohemia, but I am his de jure liege as to the baronies of Stettin.