Reforms as Absolute Monarchy

[Darkrenown]

Or it could be modelled by the support of an appointed Upper House, which it is

 

[GAGA Extrem]

I would solve this by make liberals and conservatives a bit more supportive for adding and revoking reforms if the government is an absolute monarchy.

 

[Darkrenown]

Its not an issue of an absolute monarchy (or a Prussian Consitutional monarchy) not being as omnipotent as the ideal holds. The problem is that for countries that start with little or no voting franchise, the politics tab of the game might as well not exist. Having played through as Two Sicilies and Japan, I passed reforms through the upper house a grand total of two times, with two other reforms occuring through events. The same political party was in power for the entire game.

I'm not sure what you're doing, but I just ran a quick 2Sic test and by 1940 my UH is 35% liberal and I've just passed my first reform: Landed voting. UH is appointed, and there's only 50k aristos in 2Sics, so once nice liberal capis start showing up they'll quickly make the UH even more liberal. Middle class is hugely liberal too, so I can aim for wealth voting + based on population UH and have ~60% liberals until Socialists show up.

Been playing Prussia recently, who also start with no voting, in a similar way and 30 years in I have have hugely reformed my country:


I stayed at Wealth voting until Socialism appeared as my poor pops were pretty conservative, and stayed on underground parties as I wanted to keep reactionaries in power, could have had all political reforms if desired though.

 

[Darkrenown]

Hmm, however even if they went Anarcho-liberal correctly, those don't support reforms either. The thing is, if a pop's Mil gets too high they no longer want reforms, they want to overthrow the government instead.

 

[Darkrenown]

Yes, and rich pops should also become more liberal when middle/poor pops have higher Mil.

 

[Darkrenown]

SM: Have you tried your game with the 2.2 beta? I think your version had a bug where the UH wouldn't support reforms as it should when you had both high Mil and a reform movement.

Sakkura: That appears ok, you could check the ideology tooltips on the pop details there, but that 2nd pop certainly should be becoming more liberal over time.