Recruitment: Fatherland mod

[UNSC Trooper]

Hello mates,

As you may know, Pako and I are working on the Fatherland mod. Unfortunately, I am mostly stuck working on expanding the tech tree right now (1948-2020) and Pako is fairly busy in his life.

So we need someone to work on expanding the timeline (through events and wars) and was wondering if any people here were interested. Credits will be given, of course.

The timeline as it stands now:

Early Cold War (1945-1950) - mostly finished
The Third Reich secures its sphere of influence.
The United Nations is created as a military alliance to combat the spread of Fascism across the world, especially in the Americas and Asia.

Middle Cold War (1950-1964) - needs to be covered -> Will lead up to the world of the 1964 mod
Death of Adolf Hitler. Reorganization of the Axis along more unified political and military lines.
The Soviet Union under Lavrenti Beria uses Nationalist China's affinity to the Axis as justification to invade and integrate China, India and the Koreas. The beginning of the Pan-Asian Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union is kicked out of the United Nations. The Chicago Pact is formed as a branch of the UN, aiming to form a military bloc of Pacific countries to counter the Soviet Union's dramatic expansion. Part of this bloc will be the USA, Canada, Japan, the Philipines and Thailand.

Late Cold War (1964-1980) - needs to be covered
The War of Indochina between the Chicago Pact and the Pan-Asian Soviet Union ends in a draw. The USA retains control of Indochina, but loses southern Japan to the Soviets.
A three-way Cold War settles in, plummeting the world into its darkest period of tensions. The Axis, the Pan-Asian Soviet Union and the Chicago Pact are at each others' necks.

Was wondering if anyone would be interested in helping out with writing the events for the Middle Cold War period.

Thanks.

 

[commanderx]

I made events for Nazi Artic base, were they ever added ?

 

[pakotorino]

I made events for Nazi Artic base, were they ever added ?

In the currently released versions, no.
But we have your events (thanks again) and we're going to add in the next versions; the problem is that we can not advance the mod as we would like cause we are only two contributors and I neither at full-time cause i'm busy with my real job.
So much work remains behind and we do what we can.

 

[commanderx]

Were there any events for forming ethnic nations that would serve as a wall against the east? In return for no longer being puppets they would contribute in form of military support, as for example Baltic nations were more Axis leaning after Soviet Occupation and deportation in 1940, as well as Ukraine, after the events of Holodomor and general attitude towards the Soviet government,all of whom welcomed Germans as liberators ( at first ).

 

[pakotorino]

Suggestions are welcome but right now we need someone to help us to complete our timeline cause we do not have the opportunity to integrate all suggestions (for what we said in the above post). If anyone has the desire to help we will tell you the details in a PM.
With your modding experience ... wht do you think about help us ?

 

[commanderx]

Suggestions are welcome but right now we need someone to help us to complete our timeline cause we do not have the opportunity to integrate all suggestions (for what we said in the above post). If anyone has the desire to help we will tell you the details in a PM.
With your modding experience ... wht do you think about help us ?

My hands are kind of tied behind 3 of mine own projects. So sorry, cant help now besides dropping random ideas.

 

[Khor]

I have a somewhat weird idea. How about adding countries similar to ReichsK to Italy? What I mean is, if the very far right faction wins, and they are trying to establish a new Roman Empire, than they would be on a similar path as the Reich was. They don't really need new tags for that, existing ones are perfect for that, and an event would change the government, and territories of them. Italy could place their own RK versions along this line: http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4822044/RomanEmpire_117.svg.png
They wont get everything, and they will not attack everyone, but if they have the chance, and if they succeed in taking those territories, than they could release these Roman Provinces (RP to the RK).
Similar ideas could be made to other countries. I mean they release puppets, which would suit them better.

 

[pakotorino]

Thank you for your suggestion Khor but i want suggest you to post these ideas on the main thread of Fatherland.
Here we want just made a recruiment thread to see if anyone is interested in working with us.

 

[commanderx]

Just a general advise, give some broader info on Middle cold war. Like things leading up to it, what happened after Adolph passed in said countries for which events could be made or how they should be made.

 

[pakotorino]

At today we've several ways after Adolph death; essentially a nazi oriented path (with Bormann or Goring or an historical Donitz ) a SS radicalization way or a Wehrmacht government path with several outcome including a civil war in the Reich (the government vs the radicals SS for example) and a more or less hot-cold war. Each road can have a different cold war development even if the ultimate goal is made a link with the UNSC Trooper's mod 1964 to continue then to the years '70/'80 for a more harmonious development of the ours ahistorical cold war. It's an ambitious goal, we known, but there is space to develop all sorts of ideas on different paths while holding our primary goal; also the same reasoning can be applied to the Soviet Union and allies.

 

[commanderx]

If you need I could make decisions in regards of Space Race and Soviet/USA difficulties to catch up in early years. Also I can help with tech trees. That is as far as I could go in terms of helping, as I dont want to do any deep research in plausible alternative timeline stories.

 

[Tera Brandford]

What do you need?

 

[pakotorino]

Specially Events.
Events to cover the 1952-1964 period (specifically, the expansion of the Soviet Union into the Pan-Asian Soviet Union, the formation of the Aliies Chicago Pact, a consolidate nazi Europe) in according to our timeline and our goal.

 

[RedZeppelin]

Hi, i'd love help with making events for you guys.
If wouldn't mind being a bit more specific in what type of events you want like event chains and stuff (unless you prefer that I come up with them on my own) I can get started right away.

 

[pakotorino]

Hi, i'd love help with making events for you guys.
If wouldn't mind being a bit more specific in what type of events you want like event chains and stuff (unless you prefer that I come up with them on my own) I can get started right away.

Good to hear that RedZeppelin, i'll send you a PM.

 

[RedZeppelin]

Hey guys it's Red,
I hope you don't mind but I've already started writing events (I just couldn't help myself ) and I've just thought of an event timeline of the forming of the Chicago Pact

• A new fascist government rises in Argentina
• This government requests military help from the Axis
• Once the help arrives Argentina goes to war with multiple south american countries
• The UN provides very little help because the UK & France wants to focus on Europe, frustrating the USA
• Brazil falls and the USA has had enough and forms a splinter faction in the UN, the Chicago Pact
• This Pact enters the war in order to protect the Venezuelans
• The war turns into a stalemate because the Axis threaten to send more equipment if the USA invades Brazil
• The war ends with a ceasefire and the Chicago Pact turns it's attention to Asia, and the resurgent Soviet Union

Pretty similar to the timeline in the Nineteen-Sixtyfour AAR but since you said you wanted it to turn into that world I thought it would be appropriate.
Let me know your thoughts

 

[commanderx]

That is then if the Brazil falls. Also game starts in 1946...........If anything I think the best event for formation of Chicago pact would be Hitlers death and go a bit ''Man in the Castle'' thing that Allies are scared who would take the reins of the German Reich and its nukes. As I think France being right at the border with UK still free, the biggest flashpoint for creation of any pact would still happen in Europe.

 

[Khor]

Well I would like to help out with the Balkan mess. I mean everyone has some claims, and there could be a myriad ways for wars, and pacts. I think as soon as the Führer dies (probably earlier) everyone will be at each others throat. From Slovakia to Bulgaria, the entire Balkan would burn. A lot of chains could be written here.

 

[commanderx]

Well I would like to help out with the Balkan mess. I mean everyone has some claims, and there could be a myriad ways for wars, and pacts. I think as soon as the Führer dies (probably earlier) everyone will be at each others throat. From Slovakia to Bulgaria, the entire Balkan would burn. A lot of chains could be written here.

It would still depend of who takes then charge of Reich, as weak infighting axis is much weaker than a united one against the Allies and Commies. + I dont think it would devolve into total ''at each other throats'' scenario right away as some bondage happened over the fact of fighting a common enemy or economy itself still recuperating and on some levels retooling for consumer needs, as there is no longer -Total war- mentality. I just dont think that cooperation that happened during WW2 would go away in a puff.

 

[Khor]

Trust me, it would. Hungary claims a lot of lands, and millions of people, and all the other ones do the same. When Romania and Hungary fought on the eastern front, both of them had their best troops at home, preparing for an invasion against the other. Serbia even beaten was always preparing to take everyone else down.
Slovakia knows, that their existence hangs on a balance. Either the Reich, or the Hungarians would beat them. Croatia wanted more lands, and to finally end Serbia once and for all. Romania wanted everything, but mostly to beat the hell out of Hungary. Bulgaria as always, was an enemy of almost everyone else, and he was eyeing Romanian lands.
If these forced were preparing to kill each other in the middle of the greatest battles, how long do you think they would be at peace after the war? Neither Romania, nor Hungary really cared about the Reich that much. Lands, and provinces are a first. Event chains would make every playthrough different, but there shouldn't be an everyone is at peace one. It doesn't really matter who would be the Führer. The latest date for war would be the '50s. The problem with that is, that both Hungary and Romania would be too powerful by than for the Reich, to just waltz in. Usually both of those nations are considered weak ones in ww2, but its mostly because of second or third equipment. If they have time, they would be much more prepared, and that would be a real pain in the ass for the Reich.