Tried The Mamluks and really liked, but the experience wasn't that immersive. Thinking in trying out Ottormans or Qara Qoyunlu next. Any suggestions? BTW what's the best nation to form Persia?
Recommended nations in CoC?
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I figured why try one middle eastern nation when you can try them all.
So I went on to a middle eastern tag switching spree last game. Went Otto -> (switched to kurdic and then to syrian) Arabia -> (back to kurdic) Mughals-> Mamluks -> Persia and I could have gone back to Turkic to forum Rum if I wanted to.
So I went on to a middle eastern tag switching spree last game. Went Otto -> (switched to kurdic and then to syrian) Arabia -> (back to kurdic) Mughals-> Mamluks -> Persia and I could have gone back to Turkic to forum Rum if I wanted to.
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Mushasha is really underrated. It has a good starting position and good stackable ideas.
Timurids if you're looking for a fun blobbing campaign, Yemen if you want a bit more of a challenge. Try to form Arabia and get the coffee achievements.
I'm trying to play as Bengal and I'm not dissapointed for even a bit.
You can become the tributary of Ming for merely 12 MP each year or 30-240 ducats each year. And then start the Asia-Subcontinent business.
Build your own base in Asia and strengthen your trade in Ceylon by killing the lesser tributary states of Ming, like Pegu, Ava etc. Don't even bother to conquer India before that, it will rake too much AE and coalition will wreck you in an instant (Delhi-Jaunpur-Orissa vs You alone is definite suicide).
After you have strong economy, your expansion path is now open with many choices :
1. Ally Jaunpur, crush Orissa, march West and kill both Vijayanagar-Bahmanis to take Goa trade node for yourself.
2. Ally Delhi, crush Jaunpur and Malwa, march North and move your base to Doab area (Doab, Delhi, Jaunpur) and then form Hindustan.
3 of key main ideas for Bengal : +10% trade, +10% production efficiency, +10% tax modifier, there's few nation in EU4 that can top that crazy ideas along with +3 tolerance of heathen and 10% trade steering. And to add the cream of the crop, the Hanafi school provides -5% Admin tech.
My ideas : Admin - Influence - Aristocratic - Economy - Trade - Offensive - Humanist - Quality
Why took Aristocratic? Because of 33% manpower modifier and monthly autonomy decreases. Pair that with economic and you're golden
You can become the tributary of Ming for merely 12 MP each year or 30-240 ducats each year. And then start the Asia-Subcontinent business.
Build your own base in Asia and strengthen your trade in Ceylon by killing the lesser tributary states of Ming, like Pegu, Ava etc. Don't even bother to conquer India before that, it will rake too much AE and coalition will wreck you in an instant (Delhi-Jaunpur-Orissa vs You alone is definite suicide).
After you have strong economy, your expansion path is now open with many choices :
1. Ally Jaunpur, crush Orissa, march West and kill both Vijayanagar-Bahmanis to take Goa trade node for yourself.
2. Ally Delhi, crush Jaunpur and Malwa, march North and move your base to Doab area (Doab, Delhi, Jaunpur) and then form Hindustan.
3 of key main ideas for Bengal : +10% trade, +10% production efficiency, +10% tax modifier, there's few nation in EU4 that can top that crazy ideas along with +3 tolerance of heathen and 10% trade steering. And to add the cream of the crop, the Hanafi school provides -5% Admin tech.
My ideas : Admin - Influence - Aristocratic - Economy - Trade - Offensive - Humanist - Quality
Why took Aristocratic? Because of 33% manpower modifier and monthly autonomy decreases. Pair that with economic and you're golden
In terms of the Middle East it depends on what you want to do. If you want to form Persia, and by best you mean easiest way, you can take Ajam since they have most of the cores. Let the rebels convert you to Shia and take Jafari school for the +10% shock damage. Vassalize Gilan and you have eternal access to -10% shock damage taken also. If you want to do it historically then choose Ardabil, get access to the beautiful Safavid dynasty. allying/vassalizing Gilan is also recommended for the boost.
In general terms of playing in the region, Ottomans are no real challenge as they're still broken af, the only difference is that there exists now a minor chance for them to fail if they suicide into Albania who ends up allied to some majors and guaranteed by venice. I've seen it only happen once after numerous playthroughs. QQ is actually very fun and has great ideas/government but is in a difficult situation because of the many many MANY rebels you will have to deal with. Whenever I play them I find it very difficult to keep my economy going since you often end up without allies and getting declared on by the Mamluks on peace timer. Its still very much doable especially post CoC but just something to keep in mind.
AQ might be where you wanna look since they have a scripted insanely good general in their heir so it will make wreaking havoc throughout the middle east easier and if you ally specific countries you can put an end to the Ottomans at the very beginning of the game.
In general terms of playing in the region, Ottomans are no real challenge as they're still broken af, the only difference is that there exists now a minor chance for them to fail if they suicide into Albania who ends up allied to some majors and guaranteed by venice. I've seen it only happen once after numerous playthroughs. QQ is actually very fun and has great ideas/government but is in a difficult situation because of the many many MANY rebels you will have to deal with. Whenever I play them I find it very difficult to keep my economy going since you often end up without allies and getting declared on by the Mamluks on peace timer. Its still very much doable especially post CoC but just something to keep in mind.
AQ might be where you wanna look since they have a scripted insanely good general in their heir so it will make wreaking havoc throughout the middle east easier and if you ally specific countries you can put an end to the Ottomans at the very beginning of the game.
Rassids, because crazy military boosts. -25% shockdamage received, anyone? Also a feudal theocracy positioned in the richest corner of Arabia.
Ajam, for that extra sweet Timurid experience. Starts out independant with a Timurid monarch. Can insta convert to Shia for the low low price of -2 stability. Eat up all the Persian minors. Wait for Mamluks early war against Qara then invade Iraq and save your Shia bruddas. Divide and conquer against the Timurid breakaway vassals. Then Become the Timmy. After that the world is your oyster, beat up the Ottomans, Humiliate the Ming and show France that Timmy Red is better than Weak France Blue.