Will this be possible? seems like something that could be added to make south eastern europe and the middle east more interesting
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Rebuilding the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires
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Strange usually it's the Byzantophiles who are first create a topic about reacreating the empire in all PDS games.
I want to recreate the Assyrian empire!!
j/k
Empire (re-)creation mods usually appear within 1-2 weeks after the game's launch, since it's normally quite easy... you only need to define a new country tag, add a flag, some ministers and generals, script the provinces that are necessary and you're done.
j/k
Empire (re-)creation mods usually appear within 1-2 weeks after the game's launch, since it's normally quite easy... you only need to define a new country tag, add a flag, some ministers and generals, script the provinces that are necessary and you're done.
Thing is, they broke up becouse people of those empires did not like them. So you have to fight war to do it, and for example Hungary has Germany at its side.
Agreed.I don't like rebuilding something like Byzantine, it's way too old, but it was still not so late from when the Ottoman Empire-AH was destroyed.
It's doesn't affect the game overall a lot anyway since there's no chance of such countries forming(I hope
).
It's doesn't affect the game overall a lot anyway since there's no chance of such countries forming(I hope
).
Mustapha Kemal and Turkish people never wanted to rebuild Ottoman Empire after the Turkish War of Indipendence. Grand National Assembly fought aganist Ottoman fanatics too. So building the Ottoman Empire again would be so funny when even Turkish people doesn't want it.
well i have to object this
when Atatürk started this indepedence movement he said to public:we are going to save ottoman empire
theres a even talks for which prince should be appointed as new sultan
but when the fight is over Atatürk and colleuges decided to form republic and started change the traditional aspects of the turkish culture, most of the people who participated in independence war protested this idea then got executed because of that
also dont get me wrong, i dont hate Atatürk.he saved the turkish nation
but lets not forget he is a human-being and humans tend to make some mistakes in their lives
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Turks didn't have enough population to rebuild their empire. Their Ottoman empire disintegrated because of the low population (plus rebellious minorities, large territories, many fronts) in the first place.
I would like to see an improvement of the diplomacy! It is hard to get the Spaniards and the Turks on your side as Germany EVEN when you take France. The biggest reason for Spain and Turkey to turn down Adolf's invitations during WWII was the lack of material support that Germany offered.
It should be possible to give these countries or any country a part of your army, a sort of pledge that you will provide an expeditionary army in order to entice these countries or any country for that matter to your alliance, a way to sweeten the pot so to speak.
Thus Turkey has the chance to recreate its former imperial terriotires in the Mid East.
It should be possible to give these countries or any country a part of your army, a sort of pledge that you will provide an expeditionary army in order to entice these countries or any country for that matter to your alliance, a way to sweeten the pot so to speak.
Thus Turkey has the chance to recreate its former imperial terriotires in the Mid East.
What mistake did he make? Making Turkey a republic? What the hell.
Ataturk promised alot of things anyway, but after the war it was pretty evident what he actually had in plan and that did not involve the Ottoman Empire (considering he fought anyone who opposed the republic, monarchists and all that)
The only thing that is actually plausible here is maybe Austria-Hungary, but the two countries would need completely different governments that weren't anti Habsburg. I can also still see Turkey performing some expansion, but not as the ottoman empire. After Ataturk died there was a power struggle, and if Recep Peker were to emerge victorious Turkey would probably have joined the axis. Quite alot of interesting possibilities if he did.
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nope glad he formed the republic
im just saying hes not perfect like every human being thats all
Nobody thinks he is perfect except fanatically brainwashed Turkish people of Turkey. He is your typical bourgeouis revolutionary dictator. It was pretty common in Europe and even the world at the time. His difference was that he was more on the "progressive side" due to his bourgeouis nature. Within already capitalist countries, these dictators were "reactionary or conservative at best", Mussolini, Franco, Hitler...etc. In the context of a feudal empire like the Ottomans, he shines as a progressive man.
How about Turkey has cores on their old territories, Austria has cores, so does Germany, cores for Baltic Duchy, North Ingria, PV of the SW Caucasus, Bavarian Soviet Republic, Gen Government, etc.
Turkey has no claim on their old territories, neither does Austria. The local population would never support either.
How about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greater_austria_ethnic.svg ? (mod idea
If you really want to then maybe you could let Austria have cores on those provinces with german population. Lol.
Wrong
Turkey had claims on the aegean islands, Mosul and Kerkuk during that time
Local population with some awareness of real world i would say. There are still people here who are insanely addicted to Ottomans as a state and a dynasty.
We don't exactly know what HoI4 will be like but i think it is safe to say that this OE idea (AH too) is not suited for HoI series, considering the time period and the essence of game. If there will be any special events for Turkey, it must focus on claiming Mosul region, entering war on the same side with Germany if SU breaks, maybe a choice between staying neutral and entering war if Germany's attack on SU delays, or maybe an agression towards Greece for Cyprus and Aegean Islands... But certainly not a complete OE dream with claims on everywhere.
No, she has not. They were all settled back then, remember the starting date is 1936. Just maybe Aegean problem can be implemented into game, since the final agreements for the islands were after the war.