Japanese democratizing on their own, in a victorious position? Not bloody likely.
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Japanese democratizing on their own, in a victorious position? Not bloody likely.
Yeah, but Japan needs to bring back democracy to the Japanese and colonial peoples, in order to prevent a revolt similar to Libya's revolt.
Also, will the Filipino language and Philippine culture be respected? Respecting other people's culture and language should happen in order to keep the Filipinos, and possibly the Koreans, happy and content with Japanese rule.
Also, will the Filipino language and Philippine culture be respected? Respecting other people's culture and language should happen in order to keep the Filipinos, and possibly the Koreans, happy and content with Japanese rule.
Okay so Filipinos need their culture preserved, but only MAYBE the Koreans. Interesting Train of thought.
No democracy for Japan nor for her colonies. Everyone in Japanese Empire must speak Japanese. Other languages will be considered as Japanese dialects. Resistance is futile and any attempt of revolt will be destroyed in its very start. Any kind of foreign involment in Japanese internal affairs will be considered as act of aggression against the Empire of Japan. Any objections? Let me show you our shiny new nukes now.
Uhm.... have people forgotten that Korea is as much of Japan's ally as Thailand is?
Democracy? To flawed for the Japanese Empie!
And the only culture and language the world needs is Japanese!
And the only culture and language the world needs is Japanese!
I can hardly see them going democratic immediately. I would expect a sort of collapse ala Soviet Union somewhere down the road, if it comes at all.
So long as prosperity is maintained, the Empire can take away all the rights they want. The people will accept it as a trade off.
A 'chaotic and floundering' democratic society or the 'ordered and prosperous' set up of a semi-benevolent Empire is, for the Japanese at least, a cut and dry answer. It's only when the prosperity subsides that they will begin to question their leaders. As for the colonies, if they are prosperous and and a healthy relationship based on respect for local customs, language and culture is maintained then the people will be far more willing to let go of home rule. There will obviously be dissenters everywhere, but they would be far more manageable in this manner.
A strictly Japanese dominated Empire that imposes their language and culture on their colonies - unless they bring a great deal of prosperity - will cause a good deal of discontent with the Empire and likely breed numerous separatist factions. The following independence wars and atrocities committed by both sides would only fuel hatred and even if successful, the Japanese Empire will have only bought time before another revolt began.
So long as prosperity is maintained, the Empire can take away all the rights they want. The people will accept it as a trade off.
A 'chaotic and floundering' democratic society or the 'ordered and prosperous' set up of a semi-benevolent Empire is, for the Japanese at least, a cut and dry answer. It's only when the prosperity subsides that they will begin to question their leaders. As for the colonies, if they are prosperous and and a healthy relationship based on respect for local customs, language and culture is maintained then the people will be far more willing to let go of home rule. There will obviously be dissenters everywhere, but they would be far more manageable in this manner.
A strictly Japanese dominated Empire that imposes their language and culture on their colonies - unless they bring a great deal of prosperity - will cause a good deal of discontent with the Empire and likely breed numerous separatist factions. The following independence wars and atrocities committed by both sides would only fuel hatred and even if successful, the Japanese Empire will have only bought time before another revolt began.
I also agree with this statement. As long as things are going good for the average Japanese person, they are not going to complain about the government too much. As for the conquered subjects, I have always believed that conquests are only sustained and maintained if the conqueror gives them something that their home government never did or shows them that living under their rule benefits them more then living under their own leaders.
And if only the appearance of home rule etc. would be maintained (a sort of dominion status like Australia before WWII) with minimal interference from Japan but with the added higher benefit from being under protection from Japan, the people would gladly accept it
Tim
@SovietAmerika: Its actually not all that surprising when you think about it. Remember, China is the global factory of the neoliberal world economy, so it makes sense for them to be industrialized to such massive extent.
@hoi2geek: No democracy for Japan.
@MarkusH: In game Petropavlovsk doesn't have any major port or really anything of value, so their isn't really any need to take and annex the area. As for Hong Kong, it just so happens that the men and women of the Japanese Special Naval Landing Forces agree with you.
@Sumeragi: Do not worry, Korea's contributions to the war effort against the SCO will not be forgotten when the war is over.
@everyone else: Thanks for the comments!
Near the Yangtze River delta, Japanese forces move to push enemy forces out of their last major stronghold in the region, the major city of Hangzhou. Desperate to hold their positions, the Chinese-Russian forces in the city fight very hard to keep the Japanese army from making any headway. However, all of their efforts succeed in only delaying the Japanese advance, as the city falls to Japanese forces only a few days later.
Far to the south meanwhile, Japanese marines are ordered to launch a rather daring offensive against the Chinese leadership. Thinking they were safe many kilometres away from the front, the Chinese Politburo is shocked when Japanese Marines begin to storm the city of Hong Kong. The Marines make very quick progress in their attack, quickly securing their landing zones and pushing deep into the city, while air and gunfire support is provided by the Ryujo strike group stationed just over the horizon.
Meanwhile, heavy fighting is still taking place in Manchuria, as Japanese and Korean troops fight to prevent the Russians from retaking this vital region. In the mountain passes of Hailar, Japanese and Korean units launch an overwhelming counterattack from multiple sides to crush Russian mechanized and motorized forces that have taken control of the region. They are quickly thrown into retreat after sustaining heavy casualties.
Back to the south, the city of Hong Kong has been secured by Japanese marines. Unfortunately the Chinese politburo was able to once again escape, this time to the city of Chongqing, deep within China's interior.
In Mongolia, the enemy is proving to be very stubborn in the face of Japanese attacks. Battles continue to rage in eastern Mongolia, as they have countless times before. This time, Japanese forces inflict massive casualties to the enemy before they retreat. Despite this major victories against the enemy however, the fighting in Mongolia does not look like it will end anytime soon.
A general overview of the East Asian frontlines by August 13th, 2010. In comparison to when Japan made its first landings in the northeast in January, the situation has changed dramatically. All of northeastern China is firmly in Japanese hands. Korea has been reunified, and Primorsk, parts of Khabarovsk, as well as Sakhalin island (soon to be renamed Karafuto) and the Kuril Islands are all under Japanese control. Japanese armies occupy many of China's major cities and hold a massive frontline stretching from Shanxi all the way to the Yangtze river delta to the southeast. Japanese marines also occupy the island city of Hong Kong, along China's southern coast. In southeast Asia meanwhile, the situation is far more negative. Burma is solidly in SCO hands, and the enemy is starting to push hard into Thai occupied Laos. Taiwan is also in Chinese hands, and fighting is still continuing along Japan's northern limit line against predominately Russian forces.
Back along the frontlines, SCO forces launch a large scale counterattack to retake Hefei from Japanese control. Defending the city however are not Japanese soldiers, but an entire Korean field army, complete with a brigade of K1A1 main battle tanks and large numbers of motorized infantry. The Korean army has set up very strong defenses in the city, and manages to repel all enemy attempts to make a breakthrough. With no headway being made, the enemy forces call off their attack and withdraw.
In southeast Asia meanwhile, the situation continues to deteriorate. Chinese-Russian armies (led by a former commander of the Vietnamese People's Army) launch a massive invasion of northern Thailand, forcing the Thai and Singapore forces trying to hold their ground to retreat.
Eastern Mongolia meanwhile continues to be the site of yet more massive battles between Japanese and SCO forces. This particular battle, which involves very large numbers of tanks, results in many of the SCO formations being completely annihilated.
In Southeast Asia, as enemy ground forces continue to advance, the Royal Thai Air Force is attempting to slow them down with massive ground attack bombing. Whether this will really have any effect on the SCO forces remains to be seen.
In Southern Africa, Zimbabwe finally surrenders to South African forces. Robert Mugabe is captured by South African troops, reportedly so he can face trial for various violations of human rights.
The general situation of the war on the African continent by September 2010. All of Southern Africa is now in Coalition hands. In the horn of Africa, Ethiopia continues to hold its ground despite massive pressure from both ECON allied Sudan and SCO allied Eritrea. In West Africa however, SCO allied Nigeria continues to fight on multiple fronts against Coalition forces.
Finally, back in Japan, the government continues to further nationalize many Japanese industries and businesses, for the purpose of increasing the efficiency and manufacturing capacity of Japan's war efforts. Japanese manufacturing capacity has by now become one of the largest in the world, and Japan's new war economy has resulted in a massive drop in national unemployment and poverty. Many of the economic measures Japan is adopting to ensure these developments will more than likely stay in place, even after the war with the SCO is over.
@hoi2geek: No democracy for Japan.
@MarkusH: In game Petropavlovsk doesn't have any major port or really anything of value, so their isn't really any need to take and annex the area. As for Hong Kong, it just so happens that the men and women of the Japanese Special Naval Landing Forces agree with you.
@Sumeragi: Do not worry, Korea's contributions to the war effort against the SCO will not be forgotten when the war is over.
@everyone else: Thanks for the comments!
Near the Yangtze River delta, Japanese forces move to push enemy forces out of their last major stronghold in the region, the major city of Hangzhou. Desperate to hold their positions, the Chinese-Russian forces in the city fight very hard to keep the Japanese army from making any headway. However, all of their efforts succeed in only delaying the Japanese advance, as the city falls to Japanese forces only a few days later.
Far to the south meanwhile, Japanese marines are ordered to launch a rather daring offensive against the Chinese leadership. Thinking they were safe many kilometres away from the front, the Chinese Politburo is shocked when Japanese Marines begin to storm the city of Hong Kong. The Marines make very quick progress in their attack, quickly securing their landing zones and pushing deep into the city, while air and gunfire support is provided by the Ryujo strike group stationed just over the horizon.
Meanwhile, heavy fighting is still taking place in Manchuria, as Japanese and Korean troops fight to prevent the Russians from retaking this vital region. In the mountain passes of Hailar, Japanese and Korean units launch an overwhelming counterattack from multiple sides to crush Russian mechanized and motorized forces that have taken control of the region. They are quickly thrown into retreat after sustaining heavy casualties.
Back to the south, the city of Hong Kong has been secured by Japanese marines. Unfortunately the Chinese politburo was able to once again escape, this time to the city of Chongqing, deep within China's interior.
In Mongolia, the enemy is proving to be very stubborn in the face of Japanese attacks. Battles continue to rage in eastern Mongolia, as they have countless times before. This time, Japanese forces inflict massive casualties to the enemy before they retreat. Despite this major victories against the enemy however, the fighting in Mongolia does not look like it will end anytime soon.
A general overview of the East Asian frontlines by August 13th, 2010. In comparison to when Japan made its first landings in the northeast in January, the situation has changed dramatically. All of northeastern China is firmly in Japanese hands. Korea has been reunified, and Primorsk, parts of Khabarovsk, as well as Sakhalin island (soon to be renamed Karafuto) and the Kuril Islands are all under Japanese control. Japanese armies occupy many of China's major cities and hold a massive frontline stretching from Shanxi all the way to the Yangtze river delta to the southeast. Japanese marines also occupy the island city of Hong Kong, along China's southern coast. In southeast Asia meanwhile, the situation is far more negative. Burma is solidly in SCO hands, and the enemy is starting to push hard into Thai occupied Laos. Taiwan is also in Chinese hands, and fighting is still continuing along Japan's northern limit line against predominately Russian forces.
Back along the frontlines, SCO forces launch a large scale counterattack to retake Hefei from Japanese control. Defending the city however are not Japanese soldiers, but an entire Korean field army, complete with a brigade of K1A1 main battle tanks and large numbers of motorized infantry. The Korean army has set up very strong defenses in the city, and manages to repel all enemy attempts to make a breakthrough. With no headway being made, the enemy forces call off their attack and withdraw.
In southeast Asia meanwhile, the situation continues to deteriorate. Chinese-Russian armies (led by a former commander of the Vietnamese People's Army) launch a massive invasion of northern Thailand, forcing the Thai and Singapore forces trying to hold their ground to retreat.
Eastern Mongolia meanwhile continues to be the site of yet more massive battles between Japanese and SCO forces. This particular battle, which involves very large numbers of tanks, results in many of the SCO formations being completely annihilated.
In Southeast Asia, as enemy ground forces continue to advance, the Royal Thai Air Force is attempting to slow them down with massive ground attack bombing. Whether this will really have any effect on the SCO forces remains to be seen.
In Southern Africa, Zimbabwe finally surrenders to South African forces. Robert Mugabe is captured by South African troops, reportedly so he can face trial for various violations of human rights.
The general situation of the war on the African continent by September 2010. All of Southern Africa is now in Coalition hands. In the horn of Africa, Ethiopia continues to hold its ground despite massive pressure from both ECON allied Sudan and SCO allied Eritrea. In West Africa however, SCO allied Nigeria continues to fight on multiple fronts against Coalition forces.
Finally, back in Japan, the government continues to further nationalize many Japanese industries and businesses, for the purpose of increasing the efficiency and manufacturing capacity of Japan's war efforts. Japanese manufacturing capacity has by now become one of the largest in the world, and Japan's new war economy has resulted in a massive drop in national unemployment and poverty. Many of the economic measures Japan is adopting to ensure these developments will more than likely stay in place, even after the war with the SCO is over.
Another interesting update.
I wonder whether china will surrender anytime soon. Japan seems to be unstopable.
And what's the rest of the world up to? How is the USA faring?
I wonder whether china will surrender anytime soon. Japan seems to be unstopable.
And what's the rest of the world up to? How is the USA faring?
Looks like Thailand's days may be numbered.
If they fall it's entirely possible Singapore will follow, then Chinese forces there might possible move north to counter your invasion.
If they fall it's entirely possible Singapore will follow, then Chinese forces there might possible move north to counter your invasion.
Nice update, but you really need to do something about the situation in Indochina, the thai's are collapsing
And what are those damn americans up too? First they're get invaded by cuba, and know when most of ALBA is defeated (still not Cuba) they're fooling around in a jungle getting their asses kicked by Nigerians? And they're locked up in a stale mate with ECON in Iraq. where are the armies of the so called most powerful nation in the world? That can't be all?
You should think that the US should be able to sweep africa clean of SCO and Econ presence... but, apperently no? where are the massive landings in Cuba?, the crishing invasions of Nigeria and Sudan the breakthrough in the middle east?
I guess my general point is: Why do they suck so much?
And what are those damn americans up too? First they're get invaded by cuba, and know when most of ALBA is defeated (still not Cuba) they're fooling around in a jungle getting their asses kicked by Nigerians? And they're locked up in a stale mate with ECON in Iraq. where are the armies of the so called most powerful nation in the world? That can't be all?
You should think that the US should be able to sweep africa clean of SCO and Econ presence... but, apperently no? where are the massive landings in Cuba?, the crishing invasions of Nigeria and Sudan the breakthrough in the middle east?
I guess my general point is: Why do they suck so much?
Wow, situation in Africa is most impressive! Also, good job with centralizing economy. Private interests must be subordinated to interests of the state in such harsh times. Another great update!
@Sethanon: You shall see for yourself in coming updates.
@KcindX: The Thai's are not out of the fight yet. If they can still hold on while Japanese and Korean forces crush the Chinese homeland itself, then they will at least survive the war. I have no doubt they can do so, since Bangkok is a fortress and the Thai Army still maintains rather significant forces. However, with how much they have lost, it will not be possible for Japan to demand from the Chinese their complete withdrawal from southeastern Asia.
@MarkusH: I guess you could say its a case of "you cant win them all". The American's are struggling to hold down new landing zones since they do not reinforce them with enough troops in initial attacks, as is what is constantly happening against the Nigerian army, and their largest armies, fighting in the middle east, are not making any attempt at breaking through ECON's frontlines, something that judging by their force concentrations there, they should be able to do. Why they do not invade Cuba meanwhile, I have no idea.
@everyone else: Thanks for the comments!
Along Japan's northern limit line, the enemy continues to put up heavy military pressure. On this occasion, Russian forces manage to force Japanese and Korean troops to withdraw to the southeast, lest they suffer very heavy casualties. Attacks like this are rather common on this part of the front, and do not really result in any meaningful changes, as when the Russians advance to new positions, Japanese-Korean troops to the southwest counterattack and smash them.
Further east, Japanese ground troops secure control of Russia's Komanderskiye Island, just off the Kamchatka peninsula. These troops are then later withdrawn, to be sent to more active fronts.
In northern Manchuria, enemy forces are once again able to take control of the mountainous Hailar regions from Japanese control. In response, Japanese generals deploy the elite soldiers of the Korean Army's Special Forces brigades to clear the enemy out and hold these passes from any further enemy penetration. The elite Korean infantry are able to easily crush the Russian troops holding Hailar and manage to secure the area from further attacks.
In Southeast Asia, reinforcements finally arrive to aid the beleaguered RTA/RSA forces that have been struggling to hold back the SCO invaders. These reinforcements consist of Japanese motorized light infantry brigades, deployed to Malaya from Japan's protectorates. These forces will be critical to ensuring that the SCO is unable to advance down the Malay peninsula, and will also be utilized in any possible counterattack should the opportunity present itself.
Back in China, Japanese and Korean forces continue to pound away at the enemy. A significantly large Chinese army group is smashed in this attack, losing many of its units before finally being forced to retreat.
Meanwhile, the enemy continues its march against southeast Asia. This time, the occupied capital of Vietnam, the city of Hanoi, is the target of a massive combined arms assault by SCO forces. Vastly outnumbered and outgunned, the allied forces in Hanoi have to retreat. It appears that the frontlines in this area are finally unravelling.
In China, Japanese forces begin another large scale offensive, this time to begin securing the entire Chinese coastline up to the Taiwan strait.
Enemy forces are crumbling away at the hands of the Japanese army. At Fuzhou, enemy mechanized infantry divisions attempting to hold the city are almost completely annihilated by Japanese forces.
To keep the Russians from helping their Chinese allies while the new Japanese offensive unfolds, the Japanese have ordered the ROKAF to bombard enemy forces moving to Manchuria and Mongolia via the trans-Siberian railway. The Korean airforces prove to be very capable in this task, annihilating many of the enemy's units many kilometers from the frontlines.
Back along the Chinese front, a very decisive battle unfolds for the major city of Wuhan, an area that is heavily defended by SCO forces. Japanese tanks spearhead the assault into the city, penetrating the outer defenses and accompanying supporting infantry within the streets. After a prolonged battle, the SCO forces are defeated and withdraw.
The enemy is now apparently getting desperate, launching counterattacks wherever possible despite taking very heavy casualties. At Nanyang, the enemy forces hurl themselves at Japanese lines, hoping to make some sort of breakthrough. However, the Japanese forces stand their ground and defeat this assault.
In Southeast Asia unfortunately the enemy continues to advance. Twin offensives into southern Laos and southwestern Thailand both succeed in driving the Thai/Singapore army defenders back.
For Japanese generals, the best way they can help their allies in Southeast Asia is to increase the pressure substantially on the enemy. To this end, the advance along the Chinese coast is accelerated and expanded into the interior. Japanese and Korean forces destroy what opposition they encounter and march almost unhindered. Hopefully these large advances will force the enemy into redeploying massive forces from Southeast Asia to the frontlines.
@KcindX: The Thai's are not out of the fight yet. If they can still hold on while Japanese and Korean forces crush the Chinese homeland itself, then they will at least survive the war. I have no doubt they can do so, since Bangkok is a fortress and the Thai Army still maintains rather significant forces. However, with how much they have lost, it will not be possible for Japan to demand from the Chinese their complete withdrawal from southeastern Asia.
@MarkusH: I guess you could say its a case of "you cant win them all". The American's are struggling to hold down new landing zones since they do not reinforce them with enough troops in initial attacks, as is what is constantly happening against the Nigerian army, and their largest armies, fighting in the middle east, are not making any attempt at breaking through ECON's frontlines, something that judging by their force concentrations there, they should be able to do. Why they do not invade Cuba meanwhile, I have no idea.
@everyone else: Thanks for the comments!
Along Japan's northern limit line, the enemy continues to put up heavy military pressure. On this occasion, Russian forces manage to force Japanese and Korean troops to withdraw to the southeast, lest they suffer very heavy casualties. Attacks like this are rather common on this part of the front, and do not really result in any meaningful changes, as when the Russians advance to new positions, Japanese-Korean troops to the southwest counterattack and smash them.
Further east, Japanese ground troops secure control of Russia's Komanderskiye Island, just off the Kamchatka peninsula. These troops are then later withdrawn, to be sent to more active fronts.
In northern Manchuria, enemy forces are once again able to take control of the mountainous Hailar regions from Japanese control. In response, Japanese generals deploy the elite soldiers of the Korean Army's Special Forces brigades to clear the enemy out and hold these passes from any further enemy penetration. The elite Korean infantry are able to easily crush the Russian troops holding Hailar and manage to secure the area from further attacks.
In Southeast Asia, reinforcements finally arrive to aid the beleaguered RTA/RSA forces that have been struggling to hold back the SCO invaders. These reinforcements consist of Japanese motorized light infantry brigades, deployed to Malaya from Japan's protectorates. These forces will be critical to ensuring that the SCO is unable to advance down the Malay peninsula, and will also be utilized in any possible counterattack should the opportunity present itself.
Back in China, Japanese and Korean forces continue to pound away at the enemy. A significantly large Chinese army group is smashed in this attack, losing many of its units before finally being forced to retreat.
Meanwhile, the enemy continues its march against southeast Asia. This time, the occupied capital of Vietnam, the city of Hanoi, is the target of a massive combined arms assault by SCO forces. Vastly outnumbered and outgunned, the allied forces in Hanoi have to retreat. It appears that the frontlines in this area are finally unravelling.
In China, Japanese forces begin another large scale offensive, this time to begin securing the entire Chinese coastline up to the Taiwan strait.
Enemy forces are crumbling away at the hands of the Japanese army. At Fuzhou, enemy mechanized infantry divisions attempting to hold the city are almost completely annihilated by Japanese forces.
To keep the Russians from helping their Chinese allies while the new Japanese offensive unfolds, the Japanese have ordered the ROKAF to bombard enemy forces moving to Manchuria and Mongolia via the trans-Siberian railway. The Korean airforces prove to be very capable in this task, annihilating many of the enemy's units many kilometers from the frontlines.
Back along the Chinese front, a very decisive battle unfolds for the major city of Wuhan, an area that is heavily defended by SCO forces. Japanese tanks spearhead the assault into the city, penetrating the outer defenses and accompanying supporting infantry within the streets. After a prolonged battle, the SCO forces are defeated and withdraw.
The enemy is now apparently getting desperate, launching counterattacks wherever possible despite taking very heavy casualties. At Nanyang, the enemy forces hurl themselves at Japanese lines, hoping to make some sort of breakthrough. However, the Japanese forces stand their ground and defeat this assault.
In Southeast Asia unfortunately the enemy continues to advance. Twin offensives into southern Laos and southwestern Thailand both succeed in driving the Thai/Singapore army defenders back.
For Japanese generals, the best way they can help their allies in Southeast Asia is to increase the pressure substantially on the enemy. To this end, the advance along the Chinese coast is accelerated and expanded into the interior. Japanese and Korean forces destroy what opposition they encounter and march almost unhindered. Hopefully these large advances will force the enemy into redeploying massive forces from Southeast Asia to the frontlines.
Do net let Thailand fall! We can't have the Chinese government finding the nice casinos and resorts of Bangkok as a place of exile.