Rebels Rebelling

[tuareg109]

So I have rebels besieging a holding with more Garrison + Levy than their entire number (i.e. not enough men to continue siege).
What happens if I just leave them alone and don't do anything? Do my taxes from that province decrease?
Will they ever win out?
Will they ever go away?

 

[Darkgamma]

So I have rebels besieging a holding with more Garrison + Levy than their entire number (i.e. not enough men to continue siege).
What happens if I just leave them alone and don't do anything? Do my taxes from that province decrease?
Will they ever win out?

They probably won't win (unless the events that decrease the defenders' size by 5% happen far too often) and they certainly won't leave if they don't win. No tax decrease.

 

[unmerged(47028)]

So what happens if they win and capture all province? In CK1 after some while those provinces become independent. What happens in CK2?

 

[Darkgamma]

Independence still happens, I think.
They can also become independent if they're actual vassal rebels (by way of the faction system()

 

[Ithvan]

They loot holdings (usually taking 20-30 gold from you) and sometimes also wound/kill your vassals or courtiers in that province.

 

[Comradebot]

They loot holdings (usually taking 20-30 gold from you) and sometimes also wound/kill your vassals or courtiers in that province.

Yep, usually this.

One time I had a county get occupied by rebels and end up in the hands of another realm due to them. Dunno if that can still happen (it was a few patches ago), and I don't know what the requirements are for so that it can happen.

But, other than that one occurrence (which I'm positive was rebel induced, tested it a few times to see what was going on), successful rebels would mostly just take gold, kill people in the county, and sometimes burn down buildings. But they have to occupy the county first to do any of that.

I'd still kill them, though. There's zero reason to leave them around, even if they can't successfully siege, and they'll just remain an obstacle for any army marching in the area anyways.

 

[tuareg109]

Right, thanks for all the answers guys.

I'll just have to deal with Saxons not liking Irish overlords for some reason (oh how the tables have turned!).

 

[JonStryker]

If the province in question is a far away one e.g. it doesn't border any other of your land it can defect. If not it won't.

If you just leave them there there's no real downside to it. In a large realm I usually just let them sit on the province. They will eventually vanish without hurting you much.

 

[Kaiser Ludwig]

I'm not sure if the vanish so much as they're destroyed by a passing army. Also, destroying rebels in a vassal's territory gives you +25 to relations with that vassal, iirc

 

[tuareg109]

I'm not sure if the vanish so much as they're destroyed by a passing army. Also, destroying rebels in a vassal's territory gives you +25 to relations with that vassal, iirc

Yeah, I knew that. It's just that it's in my territory, and I don't care enough to waste the time and the 20 men of mine that would die, putting down a rebellion that will never succeed.

 

[TheLionHeart]

The rebels really need to be more of a threat. As a player if my economy is well I will just ignore them and let them besiege the holdings until they disappear. It also seems as the AI never bothers to deal with rebels for the same reason. Most of the time the rebelling system makes no sense.

Peasant: Our king speaks a slightly different language then our people. To show our resentment we will besiege our own lands and stay in the same place to solve this problem.


Peasant: Our people of faith are being oppressed by the heretic king. To show our resentment we will besiege our own lands and stay in the same place to solve this problem.

The rebels should at least move from province to province taking more holdings to stop you from raising levies.

 

[Malvius]

No, the peasants simply don't want to be ruled by someone who does it wrong.
They want to take the wheel of destiny in their own hands.^^

If my country in RL would hm... no idea, something real real real stupid and
the leading force seems to be lunatic, then I would rebel too and do some heavy sh't