Rebels in IN

[Brent15]

Rebels are pretty well balanced.

Make no mistake about it, you will suffer for expanding too quickly without consolidating your power base.

 

[unmerged(96477)]

Rebels are pretty well balanced.

Make no mistake about it, you will suffer for expanding too quickly without consolidating your power base.

Well if i can expand.. Playing as the OE is just not normal..Even my own Turkish land rebel..I have a continues spwan of rebels against me with stab +3..is this done to give byzantium a chance to survive??

 

[unmerged(56754)]

Well if i can expand.. Playing as the OE is just not normal..Even my own Turkish land rebel..I have a continues spwan of rebels against me with stab +3..is this done to give byzantium a chance to survive??

I've notcied this, the Ottoman empire is a hot spot for rebellion. When Hungary took over, there were fewer rebellions ... why would muslims prefer christian rulers?

 

[Bleedinbob]

Haven't played IN yet (so I have absolutely no taste of the rebellions yet), however it seems that this may be a benefit. If it increases difficulty and slows empire expansion that may be a good thing. Especially if in non state religion provinces are harder to hold. I always disliked the idea of having a Catholic nation easily own Islamic territory or vice-versa. Of course, this only holds true if it is done smartly by the AI and it is not spammed upon you for very little reason.

Does anyone know if stability significantly impacts revolt risks in IN?

Edit: Are there any national ideas that improve a states tolerance of other religions?

 

[Darkrenown]

I don't think the stab/rr relationship has changed with IN. There's 2 tolerence NIs:

ecumenism = {
		tolerance_heretic = 2
	}

	humanist_tolerance = {
		trigger = {
			government_tech = 7
		}
		tolerance_heathen = 2
	}

 

[Josephus I]

More significantly....How is the AI coping with rebellions?

 

[durecellrabbit]

AI multicultural countries do not last long. I'm getting a significant amount of rebellions as the OE. New conquests, well the one I got, have about 14% revolt risk. Starting wrong culture religon provinces are about 2-4% but go up quite a lot during war time.

 

[Kanaric]

The new rebels are GREAT, its nice to see the timurids break up for one plus it adds a lot of challenge to the game.

I am VERY impressed.

As Byzantium i finished off the turks and have conquered the mamluke's levant territories and they are a bitch to hold. I'm trying to convert them and i'm getting very powerful rebels fighting me very often.

IMO this is a very realistic and fun feature.

One thing I think is funny is that if you give in to fanatic rebels you can change your religion to something other than what you can normally convert to. Why beirut catholic fanatics revolted i could of converted to catholic as Byzantium which I think would of been fun but I changed my mind because fighting these rebels would be insane nationwide.

 

[unmerged(64314)]

What is the annual decay rate for 'base' revolt risk?

 

[Mrdie]

Holy Jesus Christ Muhamed. I played as the Golden Horde in 1419. I was like "Yeah, MASSIVE Horde, w00t!" until my monarch died and I had a pretender in 1420. After going across my massive lands fighting massive rebel armies, Georgia declares war on me in 1422.

Yeah, the game has easily become harder.

 

[TheMantis]

All the complaints about the rebellions and their sizes are music to my ears, because this all sounds incredibly realistic. No more waltzing through the game without major rebellions. Cheers to Paradox, can't wait to get my hands on this thing.

 

[durecellrabbit]

Timurids in my game just 14 years after the start . They're still a lot more powerful than me though

 

[Vulture]

Would you say the rebels are too much now? Or is it possible to conduct all your affairs including warfare with foreigners without the constant interruption of rebels if you're careful?

Naaah, it ain't too much. I *love* it.

 

[Darkrenown]

Holy Jesus Christ Muhamed. I played as the Golden Horde in 1419. I was like "Yeah, MASSIVE Horde, w00t!" until my monarch died and I had a pretender in 1420. After going across my massive lands fighting massive rebel armies, Georgia declares war on me in 1422.

Yeah, the game has easily become harder.

Well Tribal stats have a special succession crisis each time their ruler dies, other nations don't have it quite as bad

 

[Yuri_Kenobi]

So many hilerious and unexpected things happen when the rebels mess with the AI. Right now, Finland is invading Sweden! :rofl: