Rebels Constantly Arising in CN

[Alyosha]

I have a mostly consolidated CN in Mexico as Spain. Currently they are getting constant noble and peasant rebellions (in addition to the primitive separatist tags). Sometimes these rebellions occur twice a month, e.g. Noble Rebels arising on the first and then mid-month. What is causing this? Certainly they cannot get from 0% uprising chance to 100% in a matter of days?

 

[LukasYork]

You probably gave them a lot of land in short time, thus causing massive Overextension, which in turn causes rebel spawning events

 

[Alyosha]

You probably gave them a lot of land in short time, thus causing massive Overextension, which in turn causes rebel spawning events

I certainly did give them a lot of land. Problem is neither the Noble Rebels nor the Peasants are showing up in the rebel interface. They don't even start at 0% - they simply appear, seemingly constantly. There's no cooldown nor are the separatist rebels firing as frequently as would be suggested (which would give a nice -100 to unrest).

EDIT: Just checked - Peasant rebels were at 0% - one month tick they revolted. How is that possible?

 

[LukasYork]

They come from events, they don't need to accumulate any progress.

 

[Alyosha]

They come from events, they don't need to accumulate any progress.

Im aware of the negative events. Howevet I’m writing about almost every single month multiple nobleor peasant rebels popping up. I’ve killed 500k non-separatist rebels in under 5 years. That’s not events alone.

 

[Yolordmcswag]

Could you provide a bit more information? For example, have they made cores on all of their provinces? Otherwise overextension would be the obvious culprit. Their religious unity is probably also very bad, so if you can you should send missionaries there to convert them.

 

[LukasYork]

Im aware of the negative events. Howevet I’m writing about almost every single month multiple nobleor peasant rebels popping up. I’ve killed 500k non-separatist rebels in under 5 years. That’s not events alone.

Well it depends how much overextension they have. The more the merrier, I mean, after certain threshold you get a buttload of rebel events.

Otherwise you could provide a save game so we can check it out

Could you provide a bit more information? For example, have they made cores on all of their provinces? Otherwise overextension would be the obvious culprit. Their religious unity is probably also very bad, so if you can you should send missionaries there to convert them.

Do CNs suffer from religious unity? I think they have very high tolerance and thus don't convert, no?

 

[Alyosha]

Could you provide a bit more information? For example, have they made cores on all of their provinces? Otherwise overextension would be the obvious culprit. Their religious unity is probably also very bad, so if you can you should send missionaries there to convert them.

They've made cores on most of their provinces. Probably about 6-7 outstanding in the whole of settled (non-colonist) Mexico. I’ll have to provide a save later.

War Exhaustion is high as well which may trigger events. However, it wouldn’t be the culprit for natural rebel progression as mentioned because it rarely gets over 10% before yet another rebellion.

Another variable to consider. Many of the revolts are happening after the month tick as if progression had reached 100%. I then often get another mid-month.

 

[Ruian]

This has happened to me before as well. My CN had revolts sometimes 2 times per month for around 50 years. I ended up just leaving a big stack on suppress to fight them. It's some kind of bug. That was the last time I ever used a CN. They don't convert culture or religion, so what use could they possibly be to me? They're like really bad vassals that cost you warscore.

 

[LukasYork]

Well, they don't take any governing capacity and recently started shipping their troops all around the world which I find very useful. 2-3 big CNs can really help out in conquering India or even Europe. They also give you a massive Naval Force Limit and quite a lot of sailors. Treasure Fleets are nothing to sneeze at as well.

 

[Alyosha]

Well, they don't take any governing capacity and recently started shipping their troops all around the world which I find very useful. 2-3 big CNs can really help out in conquering India or even Europe. They also give you a massive Naval Force Limit and quite a lot of sailors. Treasure Fleets are nothing to sneeze at as well.

Do rebels/OE affect the frequency of treasure fleets? I’ve gotten a number of fleets from Peru during Mexico’s “Great Rebellion” but I cannot recall getting any from Mesoamerica in that time. I have the message setting as a pop up.

 

[LukasYork]

I don't really know but might be you won't get any if rebels control the gold provinces