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Rebel without a cause: a hands-off documentary of rebel activity

Version: 1.1.3 Vanilla
Start: 1444 GC
Settings: No lucky nations, default otherwise

Rebels are a constant topic of discussion on the forums, and it got me wondering: just how well does the AI deal with rebels? Therefore, I've decided to document all significant rebel uprisings using observer mode. I'll only cover major uprisings (double-digit stacks for the most part), though I can't promise I'll catch every such uprising.
 

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Setting up observer mode

For those of you who don't know how to do this: start the game and hit ` for the console:

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Then type in observe and hit Enter. Then hit ` again to close the console.

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Boom! You're now in omniscient narrator mode. With an appropriate country icon for this AAR.
 

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1445: First blood

Not even half a year into the game, we have a sizable rebellion in Timurids. Nothing they can't handle though.

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Later in the year, they are joined by a more troublesome stack of 17.

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Still, they are roundly defeated by the massive armies of Timurids.

Savoy also gets some unwelcome visitors.

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It takes them a year to react, but they clear out the rebels.
 

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It'll be good to see some semi-hard data on the rebel 'problem.' I'll be following!
 

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1445-1450

In 1446, Kazan gets 11 rebels, but easily takes care of them.

England may have more serious problems, though:

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Uzbek, too:

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It takes four years (until 1450) for England's rebels to mysteriously disappear. No Cornwall, though, so I'm not sure what happened there. England's problems are far from, over though:

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Hungary has a brief infestation during this time.
 

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1451

It's 1451! Who's got rebel problems? Uzbek did, until Sibir became independent.

Some hapless Indian OPM does!
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Bahmanis does! (Soon became a 2PM.)
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England doe---HOLY SHIT RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
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1455

Some Crimean rebels want to remove Genoa from premises. Some Crimean rebels want to remove Crimean government from premises.
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But apparently there is no wanting to remove from premises greater than wanting to remove kebab from premises.
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They eventually fail though.

Ceylon is another OPM rebel victim. As are the Knights:

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9 regiments!

Vijayanagar loses a close initial battle to 14 regiments, but recovers.
 
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Special edition: Timurids 1459-1470

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1460: Things get worse...

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1461: ... and worse, until...

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1462: Baluchistan gains independence. Some rebels become Timurid troops...

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1463: ... allowing some short term gains. However, unlike the rebels, Timurid can't afford to keep them...

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1465: ... and the situation quickly becomes hopeless.

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1469.

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1470: The end result is the independence of Multan from the 30k stack that crossed into Kashmir...

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... and Khorasan from the Timurids themselves.

The largest national army at this time was 40k (Ottomans). The 1461 image shows 192k rebels, so larger than the top five world militaries combined.
 
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1470

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Crimea has lots of rebels. They manage to wipe out the peasants. The Georgian patriots, on the other hand, reclaim their territory after five years.

1473

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The OPM of Kangra just can't catch a break; this is at least the third time they've fallen to rebels. Shortly after this, Multan put them out of their misery.
 

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1476-1478

Pop quiz: Can you guess the outcomes?

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Vijayanagar has been able to keep things under control so far, but can they pull it off this time?

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Timurid problems are not over.

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Nor are Milanese problems.

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Ottomans seem to have trouble with strait logic.
 
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  • Milan returns provinces to Venice. Silly Milan, provinces are for majors!
  • Ottomans soon realizes something is up and crushes the rebels with its massive army. Often AI countries don't seem to react to rebels until they take a province.
  • Timurids releases Persia. That's like half the country.
  • Vijayanagar manages to fight the rebels off. It takes more than a decade.
 
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Just a question, there were no troubles in Castille? For some reason in both games I've played they had major uprisings of nobles in first 20 years or so, and by "major" I mean they'd prefer to swap with usual England.
 

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The numbers are just ridiculous and I think that it's a pure miracle that AI nations are even able to function in decent capacity at all :D

I guess that AI's main means of recruitment are taking over victorious rebel armies, and that rebels are responsible for more border changes than actual wars. If it's WAD, it's even worse.
 

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Great and interesting stuff! Count me in!
Btw. I am not familiar with the observer mode.. are you able to actually do anything or see some additional information compared to a normal game-session?
 
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