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mrstevehazzard

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Is blinding not exclusively a Byzantium feature? Btw I saw some people saying that you can always order your heir to take the vows, but that is not possible if he's heir to any titles.
It's characters in the Byzantine culture group that can do it: Greek, Armenian, Alan, Georgian. Surprisingly not Bulgarian, and really I think Irish should have it too since mutilation prevented someone from becoming High King. As for the vos, you can force your heir to take the vows if they're in prison. Toss him in jail and you're golden.
 

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That was most certainly not something done covertly, as in you plot to blind and kill him.

That was a very overt and very public punishment
Unfortunately I cannot provide much evidence about killings that were done covertly, because (doh) ... they were done covertly :)

I only gave an example of a medieval ruler who blinded his son. And given the level of medicine at the time blinding was near certain murder.
 

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I'm aware of that. But opening up plots to kill your children requires examples like Ivan the Terrible killing his son, who by all accounts did nothing to earn his fate. Not someone who openly tried to circumvent their father's will and revert the religion of his country to Paganism

Boris was obviously put in the situation to decide his son's fate by the circumstances and not by his own free will
 

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I'm aware of that. But opening up plots to kill your children requires examples like Ivan the Terrible killing his son, who by all accounts did nothing to earn his fate. Not someone who openly tried to circumvent their father's will and revert the religion of his country to Paganism

Boris was obviously put in the situation to decide his son's fate by the circumstances and not by his own free will

Ivan bludgeoned his son to death with his sceptre, not exactly covertly done.