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So, Théoderic is on the throne and Karl in the dungeon. (Shouldn’t he be the fifth, not third?)

That was actually surprisingly easy. I play as a Hunaold Louping of Aquitaine, and was Karl's spymaster. Perfect! I took intrigue focus and used “spy on” decision on Karl. Also, I started faction for putting Théoderic on the throne and made some nice alliances. Soon enough opportunity for abducting Karl arise, and once captured, I automatically won the war.

However, Théoderic has pretty awful stats, so keeping him on the throne might be a greater challenge. Also, I was too impatient and should have wait for story events to kill off Karloman, so Théoderic could inherit both titles easer. Well, there is more work to be done…
 
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Well done that man !

Next step - have Theuderic installed AFTER Francia has been reunited, then marry into the family and end up as a Merovingian.

This is too cool !
 

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This must be new... I checked in previous games for Merovingians and there wasn't any one left alive... or maybe I missed something

Edit: Have you seen? With a non-Karling on the throne, the name of the kingdom is still "West Francia"
 

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If they can put a "last Merovingian" in the game, I believe they can also put a "last Sassanid" somewhere in there... a Zoroastrian courtier with a claim on the Empire of Persia...
 
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If they can put a "last Merovingian" in the game, I believe they can also put a "last Sassanid" somewhere in there... a Zoroastrian courtier with a claim on the Empire of Persia...

That's impossible by this time frame the closest you get are the Bavandids who are supposedly descendants from Bav a grandson of a Sassanid prince, although even that isn't they are still at least matrilineal descendants of the Sassanids.
 

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If they can put a "last Merovingian" in the game, I believe they can also put a "last Sassanid" somewhere in there... a Zoroastrian courtier with a claim on the Empire of Persia...

The last merovingian is HISTORICAL. He really exist. Can you link me a surviving Sassanid on the start date?
 
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The surviving sassanids, became the Li family in china and vanish from records. So by the time of CK2, a Sassanid heir, would be chinese, mongol graphics pack, probably buddhist (as thats the closest to china CK2 gets) and going by the name of Li and probably not very keen to go to persia.

However, for a similar lost heir, in 1066 there's Alfwine Haraldrsson Kyntling hanging around waiting to inherit a bishopric in france, who is the heir to Knut.
 
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After three hundred years... I have managed to put the Merovingians on the throne multiple times. On the other hand, they've managed to establish the Empire of Francia.

It is now 1068. Would have played more, but I crashed in my chair.


The black plague hit in 983.4.1 .. and lasted for like 17 years. It thinned the Merovingians from an 83 living members down to 15.
 

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Still, he shouldn't be called Theoderic III if he ascends to power, but Theoderic V.

I didn't check the history files yet, but there might be an issue there.

What I suspect is that they differenciate rulers called "Thierry" and those called "Theoderic", and number them separately, while it's actually the same name ("Theoderic" is the germanic version, while "Thierry" is a more latinized version).

Actually our good friend Theoderic there, is actually referred as "Thierry" by most modern-day historians.
 
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Still, he shouldn't be called Theoderic III if he ascends to power, but Theoderic V.

I didn't check the history files yet, but there might be an issue there.

What I suspect is that they differenciate rulers called "Thierry" and those called "Theoderic", and number them separately, while it's actually the same name ("Theoderic" is the germanic version, while "Thierry" is a more latinized version).

Actually our good friend Theoderic there, is actually referred as "Thierry" by most modern-day historians.


Yuck. Latins. Always ruining our perfect world.
 

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The surviving sassanids, became the Li family in china and vanish from records. So by the time of CK2, a Sassanid heir, would be chinese, mongol graphics pack, probably buddhist (as thats the closest to china CK2 gets) and going by the name of Li and probably not very keen to go to persia.

Indeed. Chinese (who had Tributaries around Transoxania) set-up a Persian outpost somewhere in d_zabulistan and when Uyamaads overthrew Rashidun Caliphate, Peroz III invaded Sistan and established a kingdom there. However, it only lasted around five years before Uyamaads took it back. And this is almost a century before Merovingi's were deposed by Peppin.
 
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The last merovingian is HISTORICAL. He really exist. Can you link me a surviving Sassanid on the start date?
We only know that the grandson of the last Sassanid king was born around 100 years before the Charlemagne start date and that he died in China. It is believed that he lived his last years in Chang'an, the capital of Tang.
 

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It's really, really easy to do this. Start as the big strong Duke in Schwabia in Carlomans realm, get 300 Jewish ducats, hire 3000 angry men, you'll now have 250% of Carloman's army, press faction demands, Merovingians back on the throne a month after game start.
 

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Still, he shouldn't be called Theoderic III if he ascends to power, but Theoderic V.

I didn't check the history files yet, but there might be an issue there.

What I suspect is that they differenciate rulers called "Thierry" and those called "Theoderic", and number them separately, while it's actually the same name ("Theoderic" is the germanic version, while "Thierry" is a more latinized version).

Actually our good friend Theoderic there, is actually referred as "Thierry" by most modern-day historians.

Nope; it appears that there's only the two previous Theoderics and not a single Thierry.

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And after a very cursory look at Wikipedia, it seems like the first two Theoderics just aren't in the history.