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Hi, what do you people think about the way war is represented in hoi? We all know that gulags or concentration camps are not a part of hoi but they were a part of real world war ii. Millions of civillians lost their lives in wwii (especially in city bombing campaigns ) and a number of atrocities were commited against civillians during and after the war (only think of the example of Poland which lost 20% of it's population)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Poland_(1939-1945)

Many world leaders like Chamberlain wanted to avoid war at all cost exactly because they remembered the horrors of world war i and the effect it had on men returning home (the shelling syndrome - today's ptsp; The lost generation etc.).

Now hoi and many other war games are made in such a way in which war is represented as fun. Millions of virtual soldiers are sent to death (not for real but virtually) and no one has a problem with that. HOI burns down agressiveness so if Hitler had HOI to play he would probably never have invaded Poland much less the Soviet Union :)

Still the question is should war games (hoi3) be made in a more realistic way which shows the burden of war on the country's population. It is known that world war ii was one of the most cruel and genocidal wars in history but those aspects were largely neglected in hoi which when played creates a somewhat positive view of wwii .
 

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Go over to the HOI3 forum and start a thread like this and tell the dev. team (and everyone else) how much realistic blood and guts you think should be in HOI3.

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If you want a game where you can gas jews, maybe you should make your own game or mod?

Personally i dont see it as part of ww2, allthought it happen at the same time.
World WAR 2.
Gassing jews is hardly a war effort.
Bombing cities was, but you cant see all the people getting killed in the bomb raids, all you can see is how it affect infrastructure.
 

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I think this answers your question. ;)

Just a quick note,

I'm getting a bit tired of all the 'this is not historical' and 'that should not happen' comments. I would once again like to notify the whole community that Hearts of Iron II is *not* meant to be an historical simulation. It is meant to be a wargame set in a WWII timeframe. So ahistorical situations are part of the package just as in, for example, EU II.

Do not confuse bugs with ahistorical outcomes. The first can be cured, the second is not intended to be cured.


Vulture,
HOI II Moderator & HOI II BETA
 

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It would be nice to have a more butter or guns economic model where you can get a bigger military at the expense of your industry or vice versa

it needn't result in the dreaded terror bombing tabou, just abstracted positives and negatives

but otherwise... games made for fun... that's WAD isn't it...
 

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The rules are there for a reason.

I don't care how many arguments you have for ignoring or "challinging" those rules.

contact the admins if you really really really think the rule against gulags &c. should go. Before they agree, though, no discussion.
 
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