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TenshiN

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Seriously, thats quite a few mil. bonuses you can get early. Basically, -10% shockdamage received from religious school and +5% morale from shia, 10% infantrypower from traditions and another +10% morale as the first idea! What other country in the game gets comparable earlygame mil. bonuses besides the Qoyunlus? Also, later on they get another -15% shockdamage received, making it a total of -25% damage received!! The only thing they lack is a discipline bonus, and something discounting core creation, but meh, who is perfect? :D
 

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Castile with Tradition, Reconquista and Last Jousting Tournament. But that's only temporary.
 

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Ardabil starts with 100% Mysticism, but sadly they don't have their combat stats in the traditions :( But still morale and shockdamage
 

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Ardabil starts with 100% Mysticism, but sadly they don't have their combat stats in the traditions :( But still morale and shockdamage

I started with Ardabil a few times yesterday, and it started with 70 Mysticism, if i remember it correctly. Still, its ideas seemed worse than the Rassids, at least until you'd get the option to switch to Persian ideas when you form it. But yes, for me, Ardabil, the Rassids and Hisn Kayfa seem like the most interesting starts and pretty good ideas as well.

Still, Shia, along with its schools, seems really really strong. A nice contrast to the widespread Sunni schools with worse bonuses, but an easier time allying with eachother
 
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Shame that the Yemen region is such an awful start position, I just want to expand into Arabia but nope the idiots on the other side of the Red Sea insist on allying everyone in my way. What a bunch of jerks.
 

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So forming Yemen with the Rassids you keep their NI's, they are a vastly superior version of the standard Yemeni ideas, the manpower tradition of Yemen is a idea in the Rassids plus they get the morale and ICA bonus, plus the shia schools are amazing.
 

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More importantly, you keep the Feudal Theocracy government which is a nice little unique bonus - the other Yemeni nations are Iqtas iirc.