Rant thread

[philjd]

I thought I might try opening this - see how it goes.

Just had (having) a game, launch a naval invasion from Hamburg to the Orkneys (Scapa flow), clearing up the remaining UK controlled islands after conquering the UK mainland.

Straight forward.. yup, eastern north sea, then north sea.. job done... currently fighting Barabarossa, month 2, so a bit tied up micro'ing that. Hit the 'launch invasion plan' button and went back to trying to get Leningrad.
,,,fatal mistake, for my naval invasion force.... in order to get to the Orkneys from Hamburg, apparently it is best if you go up the northern norwegian coast then turn west... in order to go south to invade the Orkneys from the north, tactical surprise perhaps, well it was to me. No mention of this tactic in the plans themselves just straight up the north sea and plonk onto the beaches.
Someone forgot to tell the Kriegsmarine about the change, they had sorted the cover in both the north sea zones, just not the northern norwegian coast.
Lunchtime for a couple of soviet subs. @#^%! Myh 4 marine div's down the drain, all of them

Lets hope that MtG sorts out the route planning..... which is the biggest piece of stupidity in a computer program I have EVER come across - when planning your f'ing invasion and the program actually TELLS YOU which direction it will be taking when the plan is executed, then goes off and studies the daisies in a place not remotely connected to the plan as presented and displayed.. sheesh, come on guys, you ARE better than this bull@#&t.

Rant over.

[feel free to unload your own frustrations in the thread]

 

[fall back]

Why were you going to Orkney just blitz from PDC to Dover with paras on both sides full might of the kregsmarine in the channel with all the cas/tac/nav you can throw at it

 

[Råttan]

Philjd: I feel you, bro!

Fall Back: Not strange at all. I ussually hit UK from the north in Scarpa Flow as well.

 

[Secret Master]

My favorite routing of an amphibious invasion was my invasion of Scapa Flow from Norway.

The invasion launched from a port south of Scaoa Flow, but the divisions went north along the coast to the arctic circle before heading to Scotland.

 

[philjd]

Why were you going to Orkney just blitz from PDC to Dover with paras on both sides full might of the kregsmarine in the channel with all the cas/tac/nav you can throw at it

I had already conquered the UK mainland and was tidying up the islands that surround it (isle of man went well and orkneys, total failure).

 

[bitmode]

,,,fatal mistake, for my naval invasion force.... in order to get to the Orkneys from Hamburg, apparently it is best if you go up the northern norwegian coast then turn west...

It looks like the code that generates the route for the divisions (which is different from the one calculating the drawn invasion arrow) uses Taxicab metric instead of the normal Euclidean metric to measure distances between provinces. That's why the units move up north first and then turn west, as diagonal movement is slightly penalized in Taxicab metric. It is much faster to calculate though, so I'm guessing this is a debugging left-over? @podcat

Edit: this could be fixed by changing a single bit

 

[Secret Master]

That's why the units move up north first and then turn west, as diagonal movement is slightly penalized in Taxicab metric.

My last Sea Lion was foiled in MP... because the game engine couldn't be bothered to use Euclidean geometry and the divisions arrived days later in Scapa Flow than they were supposed to.

Well, here's my reaction that:

 

[Snagletooth]

Send troops from New York to South Africa? Yea, lets go visti Greenland then head to Spain along the scenic Fascist coast line on the way.

Send troops from New York to England? Yea, lets go visit Bermuda and Morroco first then run up that fantastic scenic coast line of Fascist Europe again, what could go wrong?

Sending Troops from New York to the Mediterranean while the allies controll Gilbralter Straits and the western Meds? Nope, they won't visit the scenic Fascist Euro coast (phew!)....but they are going around the horn and through the Italian controlled Suez Canal instead of strait through the, uh Straits....cause reasons.

 

[hkrommel]

The invasion launched from a port south of Scaoa Flow, but the divisions went north along the coast to the arctic circle before heading to Scotland.

Maybe they had to refuel in the Arctic before continuing.