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rafiki said:
Could it be implemnted? Yes, I see no reason it would be impossible. And the static party system is one of my pet peeves that I really would've liked to see different.

Now for the question you probably wanted to ask; "Will it be implemented?" I seriously doubt it. If there was any chance of it, it would've happened by now.

Thank you very much. A suggestion for the mods no doubt ;)
 

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Nope, it's beyond the scope possible for mods, at least for all practical purposes.

(Otherwise I would've done something about it myself ;))
 

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rafiki said:
Nope, it's beyond the scope possible for mods, at least for all practical purposes.

(Otherwise I would've done something about it myself ;))

Fine! I shall turn to God :p
 

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Sirs

Here is a random question for you, why do we not have an OT thread in the Victoria lobby? I know there are ones in the Paradox section, but one in here for our colonial imperialists would be good too.

Yours

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What determines who gets a besieged province? I've been playing several variants of the Austro-Prussian 1866 war (as Bavaria) and every time I try to besiege Saxe-Gotha, the Hesse-Kassel Leibgarde arrive and take over the siege. It doesn't have a named leader, and is just a common 10,000 man infantry regiment. A similar thing happens when I try to besiege the Prussian province just to the East of Hesse-Kassel.

Also, when fighting alliance wars, sometimes a province you alone are besieging will come under your ally's control, sometimes under yours. There must be some rules governing this, but what are they?
 

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What determines who gets a besieged province? I've been playing several variants of the Austro-Prussian 1866 war (as Bavaria) and every time I try to besiege Saxe-Gotha, the Hesse-Kassel Leibgarde arrive and take over the siege. It doesn't have a named leader, and is just a common 10,000 man infantry regiment. A similar thing happens when I try to besiege the Prussian province just to the East of Hesse-Kassel.

Also, when fighting alliance wars, sometimes a province you alone are besieging will come under your ally's control, sometimes under yours. There must be some rules governing this, but what are they?

As far as I know, the computer wil ALWAYS get control of a province if your both besiging it. As for the second question I think (I'm not positive) that if the province your occupying is on your allies border and not yours your ally will get the province.
 

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rafiki said:
Because there's a whole forum for that kind of stuff?


HUNGRY FOR TEH POWER!!!

The OT Forum is not as Vickyish as Vicky should be...I agree it would be cool to have a nice little place of our own...

As for the rest of yous peoples...Why in the world do traded techs not give you the chance to research any following techs (e.g. Boltactionrifles...allow for indirect artillery fireor somewhat....I get Boltactionrifles from UK...Why do I have no other options left to research then? I am stuck with buying away indirect artillery fire because I have no personal tresearch options...is this normal?)


Oh and also...it is v v v annoying that georgetown, SA, and georgetown, Guyana are identical in names...maybe a little number or something at the end could make things easier (its not only those two provs though....:D )
 

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AmbassadeBelgie said:
Oh and also...it is v v v annoying that georgetown, SA, and georgetown, Guyana are identical in names...maybe a little number or something at the end could make things easier (its not only those two provs though....:D )
Rafiki's Provincename Disambiguation Mod to the rescue!
 

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As far as I know, the computer wil ALWAYS get control of a province if your both besiging it. As for the second question I think (I'm not positive) that if the province your occupying is on your allies border and not yours your ally will get the province.
It seems that this is the case. As Belgium in alliance with France, we were marching through West Prussia and Bavaria, I was frustrated to find that every Bavarian province I marched into to take over, a little "% occupied by France" thing was there... I was the one making the efforts, damnit!
 

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I played another 1866 war just to check this out, and it seems to be that if you alone besiege a province that is next to a province already controlled (but not owned) by an ally, the ally will always get control. So, if Bavaria besieges Erfurt and then Dessau, Hesse-Kassel will get them both (and annex Dessau). If, on the other hand, you besiege Halle and then Dessau, with Erfurt remaining under Prussian control, you get control of them both. :)

Moral: never bother besieging provinces contiguous to those owned or controlled by your allies, unless you have compelling strategic reasons to do so.
 

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I posted the real rules about who gets what when some time ago in another tread, wait I a sec, I will look for it.
 

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Here it is:

Strategist said:
IF 1 of the 2 parties who tries to control a province already controls a province bordering that one, while the other party doesnt have that, the one that controls a bordering province will get it. (controls, not owns)

IF both parties control a province bordering OR both dont control a province bordering it AND one of the 2 is human, the other AI, the AI will always get it.

IF both parties are human OR both parties are AI, AND they both control a province bordering it OR they both dont control a province bordering it, AND one of them has a general, while the other hasnt, the one with the general will get it.

IF both parties are human OR both parties are AI, AND they both control a province bordering it OR they both dont control a province bordering it, AND both have a general, the one with the best general will get it. (Like it worked in EU2, however, I have no idea what the game considers to be a 'better' general.)

IF both parties are human OR both parties are AI, AND they both control a province bordering it OR they both dont control a province bordering it, AND both dont have a general, the party that was there first will get the province.

Now there is in a single player verses AI game one way you can use this. For example: If you are the Netherlands, and the UK declares war on Prussia, and you then declare war on Prussia as well. You occupy the provinces bordering the prussian provinces at the northwestern prussian coast (but not the coastel ones!). The UK AI is programmed to land its troops on the northwestern prussian coast. It will land its troops there, but as the province doesnt border a province controlled by the UK, but borders a province controlled by you, they will start controlling it for you. Then as soon as it is controlled by you, and there troops are on your territory, the AI is programmed to send them to your control, so you get more free troops to fight the UK, and you dont have to waste troops to occupy the coast! (Note: you dont have to be in an alliance for this to work!)
 

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Useful (both the disambiguoation codes and Strategist's post :D)

Thanks :D

I think I'm gonna go kill Prussia now (as Belgium though :rolleyes: )
 

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btw, What are terrorist cells and guard whatevers?
 

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Strat, mind if I "steal" your very helpful notes on province overtaking? :)
 

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I can't download the .rar disambiguoity codes :(

Oh well...
 

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