Random ideas thread

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My guess is the Rhodesians are among the fiercest supporters of the Apartheidsregime. They seceded from the Empire in KR and they need protection from ze Germans desperately. I think they see moderate Smuts as more of a danger than segregationist Hertzog.

 

[Strategos' Risk]

But... wasn't there Boer-English animosity in OTL? I thought Afrikaaners were discriminated against in Rhodesia, though not to too much of a degree.

 

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There is indeed animosity between the Boers and the English Rhodesians, but both are kept together by their mutual fear of both the black majority in their countries andtheirfear of fat man Goering across the border. In fact, there is probably more that binds them then what separates them in KR.

 

[Strategos' Risk]

Posting these ideas in this thread because they're kinda 'out there', as in something further in the future to the timeline.

Could there be ethnic homelands created in Kaiserreich? There's no Israel because of no Holocaust, but could we see any similar movements succeed?

Will there be any more corporate-owned states besides the Allgemeine Ostasiatische Gesellschaft?

 

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Israel can, in fact, be formed if the Sultan allows Jewish settlers to migrate to Palestine. There are also some plans being prepared regarding a Kurdish uprising.

The AOG isn't a proper state, de jure they only administer part of the Qing territory. It's unlikely that another country will be forced to accept such a humiliating situation.

 

[Strategos' Risk]

Regarding the latter point- I understand the AOG is pretty much an ad hoc administrator of that territory. I just figured that with German colonial power resurgent, maybe another Mitteleuropan company might wrangle control over colonial holdings in say the Pacific or even Latin America.

 

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Regarding the latter point- I understand the AOG is pretty much an ad hoc administrator of that territory. I just figured that with German colonial power resurgent, maybe another Mitteleuropan company might wrangle control over colonial holdings in say the Pacific or even Latin America.

The use of a company to rule is probably something Berlin only allowed out of neccesity, as neither the Kaiser nor the chancellor at the time (Tirpitz) where known to be good at delegating power. The AOG was only created because it was the only way to control a sizable part of China without grabbing it from the Qing outright. I think Berlin prefers direct control if they have the chance. As for Latin America, if Germany gets involved there, I think they would prefer to set up a loyal puppetstate than to annex.

 

[Blackoberst]

Once more about the orthodox German noble. Karl of Hohenzollern-Siegmaringen became Carol of Romania, a foreign prince brought to the throne, who accepted the religion as soon as he stepped foot on Romanian soil. My point is, it's not only feasible, it's been done IRL. His brother, Ferdinand succeeded him, also becoming orthodox and his descendants (Carol II and his son, Mihai I) were (and Mihai still is) orthodox.
I personally like the idea of a German Czar (let's just remember that Ekaterina the Great was a German noblewoman before she was the Czarina).

/end rant

As for ideas... I was surprised by a recent game, where Long won the elections and... nothing happened. So Reed contests a "federalist", but just rolls over for his "nemesis"? I didn't get to 1940 yet to see what would happen then, but I just think it would piss some syndies off to have Long in the White House.
By extension, I guess if Reed manages to win, Long would have a fit as well. Maybe still have the second American Civil War even in these, more unlikely situations (and if they're scripted for later, my question would be "why postpone it?")

Edit: In another game, the Carlist Faction won the elections in Spain and the result was the liberation of Carlist Spain, having the provinces it normally rebells with. The rest of the country went on with business as usual, no more events firing for either country. I think that particular event chain needs some work on it. (For example: they win, another event to have the elections recognized, another one in which the Carlists could press for the king's abdication in favor of the Carlist pretender, depending on the answer, Carlist Spain could gain either all of Spain or rebel and have the usual civil war. Also, if Carlist Spain were to get the whole country, the CNT-FAI could still rebel.) If there are events covering this, sorry, but they didn't fire.

2nd idea: Same game. Playing Germany and kicking serious ass (syndies are gone in Europe). Gave Southern Italy back, Gave France to the Nat. French in exchange for alliance, conquered Britain planning to give it to the Canadians and... I couldn't. I'll probably start a war with the Entente, puppet them and then give them the provinces, but I'd have liked to be able to do it at the "Partitioning of Britain" event.

 

[Parokki]

I've noticed a distinct lack of events for when another country conquers China. In one game as Japan I conquered both the Qing (who had already taken Yunnan) and AOG, but nothing much happened. I even had to trigger the event for transfering some land to the Fengtien Republic manually. In another game I played Germany and chose not to intervene when a democractically aligned Japan conquered Qing, only to occupy it indefinitely and ignore the AOG. Surely the Japanese would set up some kind of a puppet regime? I actually liked to imagine that in the latter game the liberal Japan and my social conservative Germany agreed to combine the former Qing and AOG territories under a new Chinese dynasty, which was formed on strict neutrality and an open door trade policy, at least as far as the two major powers are involved. It would certainly be the best way for a lasting solution that didn't involve conflicting claims and a war between the two remaining power blocks in the world.

Would hoping for an event for these situations be too much? After all, it's not an entirely unlikely situation to end up in with the current version. If Japan were to conquer the Qing, then they would for example get the chance to occupy indefinitely, set up a local puppet, or set up a puppet with claims to AOG lands and declare war. Just releasing the Qing or setting up a republic might work, but I'm more inclined to imagine that Imperial Japan would set up some kind of a monarchy, especially if working with Germany.

 

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@ Blackoberst: the team knows that there is a chance to avoid the ACW by having Long in office and choosing moderate reforms. Yet because the ai-chance for this to happen is really small, we decided to leave it in the game as an exploit for players wishing to avoid the ACW The ACW is meant to happen though.

On Carlist Spain, civil wars get really messy concerning triggers and such.We are looking into these matters, yet I cannot promise it will be solved in the next update.

The Russian bitter peaces are being worked on at the moment and one of the options would be a German Czar.

@ Parokki: The game knows The Nanjing Government as releasable state since the last update. The main raison d'etre for this state is to act a a Japanese, German or Russian puppet if the Qing prove to be bothersome. Sadly itstill lacks the events for the ai to form it, but a a player you could use this state.

 

[Parokki]

I tried releasing the Nanjing Government, but they only have cores to something like ten provinces clustered around Nanjing. The main reasons to release puppets are to get the most use out of gained territories, to roleplay attempts at maintaining legitimacy, and to not waste TC on huge tracts of useless land. A puppet that only controls the best provinces around, but not the vast partisan-filled wastelands with no resources is the very opposite of a good one!

Seriously though, the idea of a generic "puppet china lol" is a good one, and only requires a bit more work to be usable. If you don't feel the ideas are terribly bad, then please consider a monarchic puppet China as well as the generic one, and maybe a Japanese-German co-operation event.

 

[SovietAmerika]

I just spawned a random idea.

You know that Kuhn plans an assassination on Long if he acts too moderate, correct? Could there also be an event that has a group of moderates (like Prescott Bush and Charles Lindbergh) to coup Long if he acts too extreme? It'd be interesting to see a player encounter both opposite factions in the AUS if he or she leans too much toward a single one.

 

[Strategos' Risk]

A random idea for MDS-KR AARs- the issue of how nukes would work in a future Kaiserreich timeline has been discussed. I think this is how it works: if the second Weltkrieg doesn't result in the use of nuclear weapons, but nukes are eventually discovered anyways, the world agrees to ban them alongside other WMDs, following the example of chemical weapons. Certainly the big alliances probably have secret nukes somewhere, but overall there is never the specter of nuclear holocaust, because there aren't two huge hulking blocs starring at each other- or perhaps there is, it depends how the Weltkrieg goes- and because the effects of the weapons in war are never seen firsthand.

 

[jamhaw]

It seems to me that more Canadian ministers should have knighthoods, I doubt the nickle resolution would be passed during war time and if Canadian's are not recieving knighthoods then who would be? I think that the British honours system would be retained in full in Canada in this timeline. Additionaly I think that Canada needs more ministers aside from the military posts it is pretty much exclusively people from the historical Dominion who are available as ministers. At least a few exiled ministers (like "The Great Anatogoniser" Chamberlain) would be pretty nice, as would a few more Newfoundlanders. Additionaly I think that Leacock would make a good minister as well, he was an economist so he could be a potential armaments minister and historically he was a potential Conservative candidate, after the Revolution it would make sense for him to focus his life towards reclaiming the Empire.

My guess is the Rhodesians are among the fiercest supporters of the Apartheidsregime. They seceded from the Empire in KR and they need protection from ze Germans desperately. I think they see moderate Smuts as more of a danger than segregationist Hertzog.

I think the Rhodesians would be fairly pro-British, after all it was Hertzog who saw to it that South Africa seceded from the Empire I doubt that many Rhodesians would have voted for him. There position on South Africa becoming a republic would probably be much like that of Natal historically, they supported the monarchy but too many other South Africans did not.

Additionally I think that it would be more fun if South Africa had an ahistorical flag, perhaps one of these?

 

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The Rhodesians didsecede from the Empire before the fall of the Empire. After having joined South Africa voluntarily, seeing Britain fall to revolution and suddenly having ze Germans on their doorstep I think the prospect of having the Boers protect them looks very appealing.

The reason Canada has no British ministers is simple, Britain still has a government-in-exile (probably existing of men like Baldwin, the Chamberlains and a very pissed off Churchill) which has no power over the Canadian government. Canadians still rule their own country. The House of Lords has reestablished itself in Canada, but they don't have a say in Canadian elections and Cabinet formations. Newfoundlanders could be added though. Canada does have British ministers for the Armed forces, to represent the fact the Armed forces are under Commonwealth command (even if most men in the army would be Canadian born).

 

[jamhaw]

The Rhodesians didsecede from the Empire before the fall of the Empire. After having joined South Africa voluntarily, seeing Britain fall to revolution and suddenly having ze Germans on their doorstep I think the prospect of having the Boers protect them looks very appealing.

The reason Canada has no British ministers is simple, Britain still has a government-in-exile (probably existing of men like Baldwin, the Chamberlains and a very pissed off Churchill) which has no power over the Canadian government. Canadians still rule their own country. The House of Lords has reestablished itself in Canada, but they don't have a say in Canadian elections and Cabinet formations. Newfoundlanders could be added though. Canada does have British ministers for the Armed forces, to represent the fact the Armed forces are under Commonwealth command (even if most men in the army would be Canadian born).

Southern Rhodesia joining the Union of South Africa was hardly abandoning the Empire, I suspect that they would be rather angry with Hertzog making their dominion a republic, and I think that Southern Rhodesia would be something of a Unionist stronghold. But I agree that they would not be particularily interested in leaving South Africa as they would be too afraid of the Germans. But I think that the English Rhodesians would by and large support restoring the monarchy, by the way, is there an event chain for such a restoration yet?

As for Canada, it seems to me that the Exiles (the non peer exiles at any rate) would have the vote, after all how could King deny his fellow British Subjects the franchise? Consequently at least a few exiles would surely have been elected to the House of Commons although perhaps most of them would be Tories. About the British government in exile, I thought (and I may be wrong of course) that it was staffed primarily by Royals and relative nonenties (the Prime Minister of Britain is a diplomat for instance). It just seems to me to be reasonable for at least a few non-military exiled British ministers to be available in Canada considering the large numbers of them living in Canada for more than a decade.

 

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About the exiles: they too can vote, but for the British government in exile. Allowing the exiles to vote, or run for parliament in Canada would be disadvantageous to both. It would imply that there is no British government worth voting for anymore, effectively ending what little authority the British government in exile has. Secondly, the relation between the exiles and Canadians is already uneasy, with the British taking over the senate, giving them disproportional influence over Canada. Having British in parliament would make the Canadians second class citizens in their own country.

 

[Strategos' Risk]

Sorry to bring back my lame complaint again, but why couldn't Newfoundland had remained British territory? It needn't be it's own country, since it couldn't handle self-government status even in OTL and the British Empire's economy as a whole would be doing even worse here, but couldn't it had remained a place for the exiles to claim as their own sovereign territory, instead of Canada?

The whole Canadian-British exile relationship is very fascinating. I'm not sure if there's any other examples in history where the deposed suzerain had to flee to the colonies. Except Portugal during the Napoleonic Era, I suppose.

 

[jamhaw]

About the exiles: they too can vote, but for the British government in exile. Allowing the exiles to vote, or run for parliament in Canada would be disadvantageous to both. It would imply that there is no British government worth voting for anymore, effectively ending what little authority the British government in exile has. Secondly, the relation between the exiles and Canadians is already uneasy, with the British taking over the senate, giving them disproportional influence over Canada. Having British in parliament would make the Canadians second class citizens in their own country.

I do not see how that can be remotely legal, they are British Subjects living in the Dominion of Canada, they would naturally get the vote as they hold precisely the same citizenship as everyone else in Canada. The exiles voting in Canada would not lower the legitimacy of the British government in exile, and besides the events seem to imply that the public does not vote for anyone in the British government in exile anyway as it is an interim government headed by an obscure diplomat, and he is just a placeholder before the public either elects a real politician or you establish a military dictatorship under Lord Mountbatten. Allowing the exiles from Britain to exercises their legal rights to elect members to the Dominion Parliament would not make Canadians second class citizens in their own country, Canada is after all a British nation, it would be impossible for King to justify discriminating against his fellow British Subjects in this manner (and few if any outside of Quebec would have supported it) and even if King did so then the Tories would have simply abolished King's misguided policy the moment they formed the government assuming it had not already been struck down by the courts.

Besides Canada could really use a few more ministers, when I wanted to replace King as foreign minister I had no choice but to use Adrien Arcand!

 

[erica]

I have an idea that CHI will choose a new capital city if it unite China (or at least CGX CSX CHC CYN not exist)

A, stay in Guangzhou

B, Nanjing (Nanking), the planned capital city of the first republic

C, Peking (Peping), the capital city in recently 500 years

D, Xian, the central of Chinese civilization and a safty place for government.

I also suggest that give some rewards for CHI after it united. for example new tech teams and blue prints.