Random "CKII is not responding" that ALWAYS happens

[Nizhny]

So, as the title says, CKII will always randomly freeze for me. Sometimes it's within 10 minutes, other times within 30, but I've never managed to play the game for more than I believe 2 hours.

As far as I recall I did not start having these crashing problems until the Old Gods DLC. Prior to that, I would not have random crashes. If it matters, I play the game exclusively in borderless window. Also, EUIV gives me the same problems, but I can play that game for much longer periods of time, maybe say 2 or 3 hours before it crashes. By comparison, Victoria 2 NEVER crashes, so maybe my computer just doesn't like the Clausewitz Engine or something.

Solutions I have already tried:
4gb Patch on CK2game.exe
Running CK2game.exe as administrator
Reinstalling the game (Numerous times)
Adding the game files to be excluded by Avast

It's just really annoying when I can only play the game for a maximum of an hour at a time.

 

[AndrewT]

Please try a full clean re-install:

- move any valued save games elsewhere
- "delete local content" in Steam-CK2
- manually delete all files and folders left under Steam/CK2 AND Documents/Paradox/CK2
- re-install game in Steam, run a Steam Verify when done.
- DO NOT apply the "4gb" fix to ck2game.exe as it does not need it, and hasn't for like 2 years

IF the problem continues, Please report the temperatures of your CPU and video (GPU)
1/ before starting the game up and
2/ after say 20 minutes' play. If your PC's vendor has given you no way of reading temperatures, install


GPU-Z http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
and

CPU-Z http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html


or
SPEEDFAN http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


Please post a dxdiag.txt (you can delete everything after the end of the "Sound devices" section for brevity) and your Documents/CK2/settings.txt. From your Documents/Paradox/CK2/logs/ directory, post system.log . Open setup.log in notepad and search for 'checksum', post that line only here too please.

 

[Nizhny]

I know it's not the temperature. And even with constant re-installations (including a full re-installation of steam) I still experience crashes. Soooo, here's the other information.

dxdiag.txt
------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 12/22/2014, 23:18:31
Machine name: MIGUEL-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
Language: English (Regional Setting: United States)
System Manufacturer: LENOVO
System Model: Lenovo H415
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD A8-3850 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~2.9GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 7674MB RAM
Page File: 3969MB used, 11376MB available
Windows Dir: C:\windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9640)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9640&SUBSYS_362517AA&REV_00
Display Memory: 4076 MB
Dedicated Memory: 495 MB
Shared Memory: 3581 MB
Current Mode: 1360 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id: CVT0001
Native Mode: 1360 x 768(p) (60.015Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1299 (English)
Driver Version: 14.201.1008.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/12/2014 10:48:02, 1331424 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D500-11CF-0971-2F16BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9640
SubSys ID: 0x362517AA
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem26.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_Sumo_Desktop:14.201.1008.0ci\ven_1002&dev_9640
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: Speakers (USB PnP Sound Device)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: USB\VID_0D8C&PID_013C&REV_0100&MI_00
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.18208 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 7/12/2013 04:40:58, 109824 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_17AA3625&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6334 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 3/22/2011 04:22:02, 2815976 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

settings.txt
gui=
{
language=l_english
has_set_language=yes
}
graphics=
{
size=
{
x=1360
y=768
}

refreshRate=0
fullScreen=no
borderless=yes
shadows=no
shadowSize=2048
multi_sampling=0
anisotropic_filtering=0
gamma=50.000000
}
sound_fx_volume=78.000000
music_volume=31.000000
scroll_speed=50.000000
camera_rotation_speed=50.000000
zoom_speed=50.000000
mouse_speed=50.000000
master_volume=52.000000
ambient_volume=50.000000
mapRenderingOptions=
{
draw_terrain=yes
draw_water=yes
draw_borders=yes
draw_trees=yes
draw_rivers=yes
draw_postfx=yes
draw_sky=yes
draw_bloom=no
draw_tooltips=yes
draw_hires_terrain=no
draw_citysprawl=yes
}
camera_speed=50.000000
camera_tilt=100.000000
centered_zoom_in=yes
lastplayer=""
lasthost=""
serveradress="diplomacy.valkyrienet.com"
autosave="YEARLY"
difficulty="NORMAL"
outliner=
{
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 }
outliner_open=no
windowmovetime=0.200000
disable_wikipedia_links=no
nudge_allowed=no
dont_track_data=no
has_made_data_tracking_choice=yes
has_disabled_welcome_screen=yes
hints=no
ironman=no
mp_max_day_lead=7
compress_autosaves=no
disabled_hints=
{
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 }
autosaves_to_keep=0
low_res_textures=no
force_pow2_textures=no
last_used_id="76561198038570349"

system.log
systemsettings.cpp:202]: System memory: 1024MB
[systemsettings.cpp:209]: Number of processors: 4
[systemsettings.cpp:220]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:252]: OS: Unknown Build: 7600
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=0, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:50]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:55]: 0: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
[gfx_settings.cpp:69]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:95]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:101]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics device: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Graphics driver: aticfx32.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Driver version: 1299
[gfx_settings.cpp:162]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B71EE2-D500-11CF-0971-2F16BEC2C535}
VendorId: 4098
DeviceId: 38464
SubSysId: 908400554
Revision: 0
DriverVersion.HighPart: 524305
DriverVersion.LowPart: 656659


[gfx_settings.cpp:182]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:197]: Video memory amount: 4076MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:198]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:199]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:200]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:201]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:202]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:203]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:206]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:207]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:211]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:216]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=0, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:50]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:55]: 0: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
[gfx_settings.cpp:69]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:95]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:101]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics device: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Graphics driver: aticfx32.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Driver version: 1299
[gfx_settings.cpp:162]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B71EE2-D500-11CF-0971-2F16BEC2C535}
VendorId: 4098
DeviceId: 38464
SubSysId: 908400554
Revision: 0
DriverVersion.HighPart: 524305
DriverVersion.LowPart: 656659


[gfx_settings.cpp:182]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:197]: Video memory amount: 4076MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:198]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:199]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:200]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:201]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:202]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:203]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:206]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:207]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:211]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:216]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[graphicssettings.cpp:444]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:172]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=no
Resolution=1000x600
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 720 59
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphics.cpp:213]: Done creating device.
[main.cpp:612]: CK2 Version Dec 16 2014 : 10:28:27
[main.cpp:613]: Commandline:
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1234]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1236]: Create text database
[main.cpp:640]: Text database created
[main.cpp:658]: Creating application...
[main.cpp:691]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:380]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:387]: Done initializing application
[ck_application.cpp:392]: Loading cursor...
[ck_application.cpp:435]: Done loading cursor
[ck_application.cpp:438]: Initializing sound...
[ck_application.cpp:472]: Done initializing sound
[ck_application.cpp:474]: Initializing graphics...
[graphicssettings.cpp:444]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:172]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=no
Resolution=1360x768
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 720 59
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphics.cpp:213]: Done creating device.
[ck_application.cpp:513]: Done initializing graphics
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1234]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1236]: Create text database
[ck_application.cpp:380]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:387]: Done initializing application
[ck_application.cpp:392]: Loading cursor...
[ck_application.cpp:435]: Done loading cursor
[ck_application.cpp:438]: Initializing sound...
[ck_application.cpp:472]: Done initializing sound
[ck_application.cpp:474]: Initializing graphics...
[ck_application.cpp:513]: Done initializing graphics
[main.cpp:694]: Running application...


checksum
Here in lies what I guess may be the problem. When I search through setup.log, I cannot find anything labeled "checksum." When I search for "checksum" it simply says it cannot be found.

Truly though, regardless of if you find the problem, I'm really grateful that you're even trying to help.

 

[zqtwhz]

same thing is happening to me

 

[AndrewT]

systemsettings.cpp:202]: System memory: 1024MB

Here's your problem, I think. Either the game or Steam is running in compatibility mode, and only gets access to 1gb of memory.

Right-click on both steam.exe and ck2game.exe, properties, compatibility. There should be nothing checked in there, except maybe the Run as Admin option. Uncheck any other box that is checked, hit Apply, then Apply to All users.

same thing is happening to me

Please start your own thread, with full system and problem details, thanks.

 

[Nizhny]

I did as you suggested with the changing of compatibility, and unfortunately still experienced a crash.

:/

 

[Nizhny]

If it helps at all, this is what the error.log said:

[instanttextboxtype.cpp:92]: Not used, use maxWidth and maxHeight file: launcher/interface/main.gui line: 87
[instanttextboxtype.cpp:92]: Not used, use maxWidth and maxHeight file: launcher/interface/main.gui line: 104
[technology.cpp:718]: Missing Tech seed values:
[technology.cpp:755]: None.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties2.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties3.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties4.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties4_muslim.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties4_indian.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: .

 

[kingofnoobs]

I have the EXACT SAME problem!!

EDIT: After looking at Nizhny's computer specs, I think this has something to do with AMD APU's because I have A6 3620 with HD 6530d and I am facing the exact same type of problem. It seems that Pdox has a lot of problem with APU's becasue I faced the same type of problem in HoI and EUIV too. Also CPU-Z does not give me accurate results because the I oc'ed my CPU to 2.70ghz and it still shows the old clock rate (2.20Ghz).

 

[AndrewT]

I did as you suggested with the changing of compatibility, and unfortunately still experienced a crash.

:/

Can I see a new system.log please?

If it helps at all, this is what the error.log said:

[instanttextboxtype.cpp:92]: Not used, use maxWidth and maxHeight file: launcher/interface/main.gui line: 87
[instanttextboxtype.cpp:92]: Not used, use maxWidth and maxHeight file: launcher/interface/main.gui line: 104
[technology.cpp:718]: Missing Tech seed values:
[technology.cpp:755]: None.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties2.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties3.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties4.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties4_muslim.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties4_indian.tga.
[texturehandler.cpp:181]: Couldn't find texture file: .

Those errors are normal, everyone gets them.

 

[AndrewT]

I have the EXACT SAME problem!!

EDIT: After looking at Nizhny's computer specs, I think this has something to do with AMD APU's because I have A6 3620 with HD 6530d and I am facing the exact same type of problem. It seems that Pdox has a lot of problem with APU's becasue I faced the same type of problem in HoI and EUIV too. Also CPU-Z does not give me accurate results because the I oc'ed my CPU to 2.70ghz and it still shows the old clock rate (2.20Ghz).

Probably 1/3 or 1/4 of our million-plus CK2 customers use AMD. I think we'd know by now if none of them could run any PDS game without crashing ... !

I know it's tempting to think that because you have the same symptoms you must have the same cause, but it's often not so. I'd suggest you too start your own thread with full system and problem details.

 

[Nizhny]

Well alright. I really appreciate your help, still >_>

[systemsettings.cpp:202]: System memory: 0MB
[systemsettings.cpp:209]: Number of processors: 4
[systemsettings.cpp:220]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:252]: OS: Unknown Service Pack 1 Build: 7601
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=0, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:50]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:55]: 0: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
[gfx_settings.cpp:69]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:95]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:101]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics device: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Graphics driver: aticfx32.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Driver version: 1299
[gfx_settings.cpp:162]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B71EE2-D500-11CF-0971-2F16BEC2C535}
VendorId: 4098
DeviceId: 38464
SubSysId: 908400554
Revision: 0
DriverVersion.HighPart: 524305
DriverVersion.LowPart: 656659


[gfx_settings.cpp:182]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:197]: Video memory amount: 4076MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:198]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:199]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:200]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:201]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:202]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:203]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:206]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:207]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:211]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:216]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen

Last time, when it was only allowing a gb of RAM, I had it set to Windows 7 compatibility mode. Right now it's not set to any compatibility.

 

[AndrewT]

That's how it should look. I'm surprised that hasn't helped actually. Is that what you're saying, that has made no difference at all?

When you say you're sure the temperatures aren't the problem - why are you sure of that? What actual temps are you getting, for both CPU and GPU?

 

[kingofnoobs]

Probably 1/3 or 1/4 of our million-plus CK2 customers use AMD. I think we'd know by now if none of them could run any PDS game without crashing ... !

Uhm, There's a difference between a CPU and an APU. AMD is not equal to APU FYI. AMD is just a standalone CPU while an APU is a CPU with built-in graphics in the CPU (Thus the HD 6530d or the HD 6550d) . Not a lot of people that use APU's for gaming and many upgrade to an actualy GFX card. It's mostly poor people like me don't bother upgrading it because I/we don't do hardcore gaming.

 

[Nizhny]

Because my GPU temp at resting is 7 degrees Celsius, and 35C after the 20 minutes of play.

Similarly, my CPU after 20 minutes is 42C, and 39C during resting. It barely goes up.

I knew it wasn't the temperature because my computer is, frankly, capable of running harder games for as long as I want to play them, unimpeded. It's only Crusader Kings II that I have any problem with AT all. Even Europa Universalis IV is fine. I just assumed it had something to do with Clausewitz, but EUIV doesn't crash.

 

[AndrewT]

Because my GPU temp at resting is 7 degrees Celsius ...

That's suspiciously cool, whatever app you're reading it with try anther one.

Do these crashes leave records in the Windows Event viewer?

Also, can I get the whole dxdiag.txt please? you can attach it as a file here, thanks.

 

[Nizhny]

speedfan showed screwed up temps for both, I guess. I thought it was just the CPU temp it was screwing up.

Resting GPU is 22C.

 

[AndrewT]

You could try GPU-Z instead of Speedfan.

I see you have USB speakers as your default sound output. We had one case a few weeks ago where they were causing terrible lag and jerky display and play. Not the same symptoms as you are seeing, but interesting. Can you try directing the sound output to the Realtek speakers instead? And/or playing with no sound (settings.txt - master_volume=0 ) and see if that's any different?

 

[Nizhny]

Sorry I wasn't more clear; the GPU temp in my last post was with GPU-Z. Also, I know it's not the audio device because I've had this issue since prior to acquiring the USB speakers.

Playing with no sound I still experienced the crash.

 

[AndrewT]

Ok well I frankly have no idea what your problem is. Do these crashes occur on any particular event or action in the game? Are they reproducible from a particular save file?

When one happens, can you reload the game immediately? Or do you need to reboot, or wait for a while? Do they happen with EU4 also?

What if you exit Steam and play by running ck2game.exe?

 

[kingofnoobs]

Nizhny, What version of Catalyst Control Centre do you have? I had 14.12 with Omega and it seemed that it was the problem. I downgraded my CCC to 14.4 and have not faced CTD yet. Try to downgrade your drivers and see if there is any change.