Random character with a fancy dynasty?

[ZivDero]

I performed a reign of tyranny in by Anglo-Saxon Brittania and got this as either a summoned character or a spawed courtier of one of my vassals. As you can see, he's got:
a) Fancy Wessex duchy shield
b) Fancy "of Wessex" name
3) He is random!
4) I started in Wessex and had a different dynasty.

How's this?

 

[Ribbon]

By 'reign of tyranny' what do you mean exactly, also the 'starting in Wessex' thing. Does he have any extended family; often the original holder of a holding will be displaced into the court of a Ruler Designed character when a game is started.

 

[Bernard95]

Randomly created courtiers can sometimes be of famous dynasties if said dynasty doesn't already exist.

In a Jerusalem campaign I can remember getting a courtier of the younger House of Anjou and in a Norse to Norman game I remember getting a Plantagenet for example.

Edit: Though now that I think of it, the House of Wessex should exist even in 769 if I remember correctly.

 

[Tatterhood]

Is it "the" House of Wessex, or just "a" House of Wessex? Randomly-generated characters often get an "of <place>" dynasty name. Could be a bug causing such a randomly-generated family gets the coat of arms for the real House of Wessex.

 

[Astaer]

Likewise I've had Jutes, Knytlings and de Normandies show up in my games before, all with the correct CoA. It seems it's just something that can happen by chance.

 

[PsysmicSound]

I think the game favours creating historic dynasties (the ones with unique coats of arms defined) that don't yet exist over generic ones, based on culture. It's most obvious when someone conquers a lot of land in a holy war and has to create a whole lot of new characters to hold the new titles - if there are any unused historic dynasties left for that character's culture, they'll be created before any generic ones.

 

[ZivDero]

By 'reign of tyranny' what do you mean exactly, also the 'starting in Wessex' thing. Does he have any extended family; often the original holder of a holding will be displaced into the court of a Ruler Designed character when a game is started.

Starting in Wessex means that in the beginning, I was the duke of Wessex of dynasty Cerdicing.

Reign of tyranny is revoking all your vassal titles through tyranny and giving them away to new characters.

Randomly created courtiers can sometimes be of famous dynasties if said dynasty doesn't already exist.

In a Jerusalem campaign I can remember getting a courtier of the younger House of Anjou and in a Norse to Norman game I remember getting a Plantagenet for example.

Edit: Though now that I think of it, the House of Wessex should exist even in 769 if I remember correctly.

Nope, Wessex is controlled by Cerdicing in 769.

Is it "the" House of Wessex, or just "a" House of Wessex? Randomly-generated characters often get an "of <place>" dynasty name. Could be a bug causing such a randomly-generated family gets the coat of arms for the real House of Wessex.

It's THE house of Wessex, although they are alone in the dynasty.

 

[tywinzo]

I love it when this happens. I once had a random Plantagenet popping up as count of Anjou and once somewhere in Sicily. I like the idea that it's "history" going on, if the result is not as what happened historically.

 

[Sunspawn]

Had plenty of Valois popping up in various French games.