Raising levies after war declared is a pain

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So I just became king of Sicily and I made my son duke of Sicily. Next thing I know he needs me to declare a holy war against a minor Arabic enemy. So I do so and I raise my levies and attack. Next thing I know two of the enemies friends declare war on my son yet. I'm not at war with them. And I go to declare war on these guys to defend my kingdom and I can't because my levies are up.

Am I missing something? Do I have to make sure to declare war on all those guys beforehand or is there something I'm missing? I know that they implemented this so you couldn't stack units before war but its lame that I can't protect my kingdom in this scenario

 

[Hastyr]

You raised your own levies, because of that you are not allowed to declare war on someone else. Until you disband them that is.

 

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So if I just disband my levies I can leave my other men's levies on the field and I can declare war? And does that include fleet levies?

 

[fenisnad]

It's a general rule that you can't declare (most) wars if you have levies currently raised. I sometimes raise levies if I'm firing an event (imprisoning/revoking) that might lead to war. Remember that disbanded levies go right back to their home provinces, so long as they aren't too far away from them.

 

[Hastyr]

So if I just disband my levies I can leave my other men's levies on the field and I can declare war? And does that include fleet levies?

troops your vassals will have raised dont count.
troops you have raised from your vassals do count as levies.

 

[Lessing]

So I just became king of Sicily and I made my son duke of Sicily. Next thing I know he needs me to declare a holy war against a minor Arabic enemy. So I do so and I raise my levies and attack. Next thing I know two of the enemies friends declare war on my son yet. I'm not at war with them

This whole story makes no sense. Your son is your vassal? How does "he needs you to declare war"? NPCs can't tell you anything.

Also, external forces cant declare war on your son without declaring war on you if he's your vassal.

 

[yodaime]

This whole story makes no sense. Your son is your vassal? How does "he needs you to declare war"? NPCs can't tell you anything.

Also, external forces cant declare war on your son without declaring war on you if he's your vassal.

His son probably declared holy war on some muslims and is getting his ass handed to him.

 

[Lessing]

His son probably declared holy war on some muslims and is getting his ass handed to him.

Then he couldnt have joined him anyway.

 

[RustyTurban]

So your son has declared a holy war against Muslims and they are kicking his ass. In terms of circumstances, if he doesn't win the war he will only lose prestige and maybe piety, nothing of significance. As a tip, Sicily is super valuable and you should be keeping it in your desmesne all the time. Nothing major to worry about and because of how war declarations work this is a bit of a win-win for you. Losing this war only temporarily kills of a few of your levies which could but shouldn't be dangerous long-term.

Also, what is in your desmesne and what is your desmesne limit?

 

[Zireael]

This whole story makes no sense. Your son is your vassal? How does "he needs you to declare war"? NPCs can't tell you anything.

Also, external forces cant declare war on your son without declaring war on you if he's your vassal.

Maybe he's roleplaying and the son for some reason is not a vassal. It's possible to have, for example, a separate Kingdom of Brittany and Duchy of Brittany.