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Ragusa has no chanse to do anything , allways must fall to Genoa or Sicily.
I was thinking that any country have chance of progres in Interregnum.
 

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Well, small countries start with relatively less. Obviously, fewer provinces, which are the building blocks of your economy and manpower. But most small countries also have little done for them: no leaders, maybe no decent monarchs.

Ragusa is one of these.

It is quite unlikely that any of the smaller countries will do well. It would be nice to see it happen ocassionally, but they really need something to get them going, which means someone needs to do some work to the files.
 

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I remember one round of regular EUII grand campaign, where the small state of Siena in the end of the 16th century controlled all of modern-day Italy xD
But that was a freaky round, England had been split up between Brittany and Scotland (!) and was eventually annexed by France, Granada controlled almost all of Iberia (!) and Sweden (I played as Brandenburg) controlled the Baltic and most of Poland-Lithuania and all russian provinces from Kola to Moscow.
That was one of the most fun rounds I've ever played :)
 

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Sweden (I played as Brandenburg) controlled the Baltic and most of Poland-Lithuania and all russian provinces from Kola to Moscow.

So then what did you own? :D
 

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I guess he controlled most of HRE :D
 

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I guess he controlled most of HRE :D


Hehe, I controlled Mecklenburg, Holstein, Pommern, the Brandenburg starting provinces, Saxony, Bohemia and south Germany :) Plus I annexed Kilwa and Zimbambwe :)
 

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You evil Hohenzollern imperialistic son-of-a-Wilhelm-II-kaiser! :p
 

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Its a liittle bit off topic dont you think ?

A little of topic. The topic was about Ragusa and other small, one-province states and why they suck. And I started thinking about that round I told you about where Siena (as a one-province state) conquered all of Italy.
 

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Hey, has anyone here been to Ragusa?

(See, now we're back on topic.)
 

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Hey, has anyone here been to Ragusa?

(See, now we're back on topic.)

Smart move ;) Ragusa, isn't hat the old name for Montenegro? xD Or maybe I am just way wrong...

EDIT: My mistake. It lays is modern-day Croatia, but under the name Dubrovnik...then why did Paradox put that province where Montenegro lies? And by the way, Ragusa is also the name of an Sicilian city. And I haven't been to either of the Ragusas.
 

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Feel free to use this list of monarchs I made for A4K:

Code:
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#        Ragusa monarchs written by Basileios II #
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#             ID range 72000 - 72036             #
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historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72000 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1417
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1429
	}
	name = "Vittorio Bobali"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72001 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1429
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1445
	}
	name = "Benedetto Cotrugli"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72002 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1445
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1461
	}
	name = "Giorgio Darsa"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72003 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1461
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1476
	}
	name = "Bonino de´Bonini"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72004 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1476
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1484
	}
	name = "Mauro Vetrani"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72005 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1484
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1521
	}
	name = "Sigismondo Menze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72006 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1521
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1530
	}
	name = "Antonio Bona"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72007 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1530
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1543
	}
	name = "Michele Giunio Bobali"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72008 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1543
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1555
	}
	name = "Zuppano Bona"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72009 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1567
	}
	name = "Marino Darsa"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72010 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1567
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1577
	}
	name = "Nicolò Vito Gozze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72011 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1577
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1583
	}
	name = "Hieronimus Ghetaldi"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72012 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1583
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1601
	}
	name = "Francesco Gondola"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72013 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1601
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1612
	}
	name = "Savino Menze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72014 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1612
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1621
	}
	name = "Francesco Caboga"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72015 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1621
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1630
	}
	name = "Tommaso Basilio"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72016 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1630
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1639
	}
	name = "Marino Menze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72017 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1639
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1648
	}
	name = "Paolo Pozza"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72018 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1648
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1657
	}
	name = "Luciano Caboga"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72019 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1657
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1666
	}
	name = "Giovanni Serafino Bona"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72020 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1666
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1675
	}
	name = "Simone Ghetaldi"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72021 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1675
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1684
	}
	name = "Clemente Menze"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72022 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1684
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1693
	}
	name = "Stefano Tudisi"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72023 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1693
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1702
	}
	name = "Francesco Gondola"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72024 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1702
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1711
	}
	name = "Biagio Cerva"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72025 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1711
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1720
	}
	name = "Luca Marino Sorgo"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72026 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1720
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1729
	}
	name = "Giovanni Gozze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72027 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1729
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1738
	}
	name = "Giunio di Restis"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72028 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1738
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1747
	}
	name = "Biagio Menze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72029 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1747
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1756
	}
	name = "Marino Bernardo Caboga"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72030 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1756
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1765
	}
	name = "Nicolò Gozze"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72031 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1765
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1774
	}
	name = "Luca Giorgi"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72032 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1774
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1783
	}
	name = "Baltazar Gozze"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72033 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1783
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1792
	}
	name = "Michele Luca Bona"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72034 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1792
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1801
	}
	name = "Antonio Marino Caboga"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72035 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1801
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1810
	}
	name = "Francesco Gozze"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 72036 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1810
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1821
	}
	name = "Matteo Ghetaldi"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}
 

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Will do.

Thanks.