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Most likely it will work just like it did in the armagedon. It will help "interceptors intercept" and give a certain combat modifier if a dogfight is in the province. So It will not spot enemy units (especialy enemy fleets) in range like it does in HoI3, and it will not give any modifiers if the fight is not in the dogfight province.
The way radar works in HoI3 is quite good imo.
The way radar works in HoI3 is quite good imo.
you have my vote too. the radar concept of HoI3 is good. Would like to have something like it in AoD as well.
detection and/or help for interceptors/ interceptions should be based on radarlevel to range to radar base, so you can build radar hotspots to cover some area.
detection and/or help for interceptors/ interceptions should be based on radarlevel to range to radar base, so you can build radar hotspots to cover some area.
From the FAQ
-Air war has been reworked, planes now can miss each other and radar now has many uses and is vital for air superiority in defensive missions.
-Air war has been reworked, planes now can miss each other and radar now has many uses and is vital for air superiority in defensive missions.
Radars are not relevant only for air combat. For instance they should provide detection.
Well land based radars were only good for aircraft detection and early warning.
If we are talking about detecting land and naval units airplane scouting and SIGINT was basically the two ways to do it.
What radar techs should do however is to add more powerful radar attachment or stats to ships and aircrafts that can be upgraded. This proved invaluable for detection in low visibility or night combat situations.
Radar should help with Sea Detection. Especially against large ships such as battleships and Aricraf carriers who would not be hidden by rolling seas.
Yes but not only big ships. In the battle of cape Matapan, for example, the Royal Navy sunk/crippled the Italian fleet which was composed of heavy destroyers, light destroyers and some screens because of the radar used both as detection and fire control.
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Actually, at Matapan radar was a factor but not because it was used for fire control. The later parts of the battle were fought at night, and radar was important because the British ships were able to close with the Italians undetected and open fire with surprise. Later radar was useful for rangefinding and fire control, however; both functions are reflected in 'vanilla' AoD.
In a basic sense, though, Alex_brunius is right; for the most part radar will not detect ships accross a complete sea 'province', so you still need scouts. Scouts that are equipped with radar, however, will be more effective as they will have a longer detection range; once engaged with a 'contact', this range becomes even more important...
In a basic sense, though, Alex_brunius is right; for the most part radar will not detect ships accross a complete sea 'province', so you still need scouts. Scouts that are equipped with radar, however, will be more effective as they will have a longer detection range; once engaged with a 'contact', this range becomes even more important...
This is what I meant. The second part of the battle was fought against Regia Marina cruisers and screens.
So, as I said, radar was used for both detection and fire control.
This is because the sea provinces are huge but radar installations should be able to detect ships not only aircrafts.
Some sea provinces are not so huge though, and i still say Battleships and AC shuld have a chance of being discovered when movign through a province with radar. Especially if it is not raining.
Won't make much difference since you can't build radar stations at sea
(yeah I know you meant radar coverage)Edit: That some provinces are small doesn't warrant giving detection to all provinces. The place where this would see most frequent use is probably the Pacific where sea-zones can be up to 500km across. Find me a naval detection radar with that range from WW2.
I can agree on straits though. Those are always small enough bodies off water to warrant radar coverage. And radar installations should also give combat bonuses to airplanes defending port-strikes (if it doesn't already).
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Won't make much difference since you can't build radar stations at sea
Edit: That some provinces are small doesn't warrant giving detection to all provinces. The place where this would see most frequent use is probably the Pacific where sea-zones can be up to 500km across. Find me a naval detection radar with that range from WW2.
I can agree on straits though. Those are always small enough bodies off water to warrant radar coverage. And radar installations should also give combat bonuses to airplanes defending port-strikes (if it doesn't already).
A radar as a range. That means a detection should be provided within its range. No matter to straights.
The range is very different depending on if your trying to locate ships, tanks or airplanes though.
Early English radars could detect airplanes hundreds of kms away. But no land or shipbased radar in ww2 could detect ships 100km away (mostly due to horizon)
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Correct.
1) The range differs depending on both the target@s location and the radar's location
2) Fixed installations and naval radars had small range (for what I read max 20 km) vs ships
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Please note that many German submarines were sunk thanks to the radars (even though they had very limited range)
Well radar is of course a LOS device:
This chart is how far the horizon is:
But then again Aircraft carriers can be over 240 ft tall also so someone somwhere msut have some info on ship detection using radar.
Now if say you built the radar station at the top of Mt. Suribachi which has a height of 554 ft. (170m)You would be able to see a good distance.
This chart is how far the horizon is:
But then again Aircraft carriers can be over 240 ft tall also so someone somwhere msut have some info on ship detection using radar.
Now if say you built the radar station at the top of Mt. Suribachi which has a height of 554 ft. (170m)You would be able to see a good distance.
To spot another high location/object you can actually add the horizons together (to allow for the height of the target). For an 80m tall carrier this adds (80)^0.5 ~ 9 km for a total of ~22 km, so your 20 km limit is pretty good, as a guide.
How many were sunk thanks to stationary, land-based radars?
That's is what we are talking about here...
The way Horizon works really say landbased radars should only be able to detect mostly high-flying airplanes (like bombers) at long ranges (outside their own province).