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Cueball said:
I hear what you are saying, though and if you think things have been a bit to fractured to continue this game, I can see your point. However, I think we should take this group and build a new game, from a fresh start.

I think, given that we actually had a long stable session last time, there is no reason not to keep the group together and to start fresh. I am easy with whatever.

Good friendships have been born from this (nods). Let's keep our group tightened.
 

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Actually I rather like Jorian. I really dont like you however, and will not be playing with you. Period.

Love at first sight! You dont like me because i asked some minor edits to Burgundy? If you check every other thread, you will notice people that were ghosted, got edits. And people that are AIed, get even more edits. Specially if they had an electricity shortage and were unable to play even if they wanted. AI-ing a nation is just too punitive for anyone. Doesnt matter if the AI got 4 provinces. Most likely it got worthless provinces at high BB cost and wasted many ducats or worthless stuff.

About not liking me... I dont care if you like me or not, i promised Jorian i would sub him today and i intend to. If you will not play, then, too bad i supose - we could just AI England and see how much you like it. :D
 

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About not you not liking each other I say make war not peace.

I never said i had anything against Cueball... He, on the other hand, was very explicit stating in his first reply that he didnt like me. :)
 

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Well Jorian didn't want to give up his four provinces he gained for 4% inflation so I don't see why that should be edited.

I was just thinking of this matter for a while... And honestly, i cannot remember the last time i minted 4% in order to beat a human nation and get 4 provinces from em. From an AI, it is a piece of cake. You would not even get 1% inflation from getting em tbh. I frankly doubt that even the noobiest player on EU2 would need to get 4% inflation in order to get 4 provinces from the AI.

And from what i heard, Denmark took over Burgundy's vassals. So i really dont understand why Burgundy isnt getting a single ducat in compensation. You can go ask around the forum if you doubt my words.
 

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I got to agree with EGO on this one ;)

crushing AI is really easy and with Burgundy is even more easy ;)
 

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Are the stats up to date? You guys still on 1450?
 

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Stats are updated. About me taking one of Burgundys vassals. Jorian force vassalized Bremen years after I had declared war upon it. I even had a core on Bremen. I talked to Jorian about it and he finally understodd after a long discussion. And if he told you this as if I did something really unfair then I can only say that is just sad. :p

About Inflation Jorian didn't even talk to me about it. EGO you were the first to bring it on the table. the other nations that have been ai'ed or ghosted got no compensation so why start with Burgundy?
 

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About Inflation Jorian didn't even talk to me about it. EGO you were the first to bring it on the table. the other nations that have been ai'ed or ghosted got no compensation so why start with Burgundy?

Well then all should get compensation tbh. The AIs more then the ghosted ones. I didnt speak about other nations because no one told me they were AIed.

About Burgundy, actually, inflation isnt the only problem. I checked the logs and Burgundy got lots of useless provinces from AIs - Tyrol for example. Taking so many non-cores, costed Burgundy 8 BB points in total. I am sure if Jorian was here he would have vassalized the AIs only, specially if the provinces they possessed were not that important.
 

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Well then all should get compensation tbh. The AIs more then the ghosted ones. I didnt speak about other nations because no one told me they were AIed.

About Burgundy, actually, inflation isnt the only problem. I checked the logs and Burgundy got lots of useless provinces from AIs - Tyrol for example. Taking so many non-cores, costed Burgundy 8 BB points in total. I am sure if Jorian was here he would have vassalized the AIs only, specially if the provinces they possessed were not that important.

Actually Jorian was very very happy when I told him what the AI had done.
Anyway I need to talk to Jorian about it cause he never told me about it. And also I need to talk to Prinz Wilhelm about it.
 

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Actually Jorian was very very happy when I told him what the AI had done.
Anyway I need to talk to Jorian about it cause he never told me about it. And also I need to talk to Prinz Wilhelm about it.

Can you show up on ICQ? I tried to add you but it keeps saying you refuse when i ask for authorization.
 

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cool-toxic said:
We have found out a solution to the little problem of Burundy's. I removed two loans of 400d in total and moved three armies that were trapped to Dijon. This is the compensation for Burundy was AI'ed.
And I also slept the Burgundian inheritance event of 1477.

I believe the inflation should still be fixed tbh. But well, not my game, not my nation, let Jorian complain about it. ;)
 

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Love at first sight! You dont like me because i asked some minor edits to Burgundy? If you check every other thread, you will notice people that were ghosted, got edits. And people that are AIed, get even more edits. Specially if they had an electricity shortage and were unable to play even if they wanted. AI-ing a nation is just too punitive for anyone. Doesnt matter if the AI got 4 provinces. Most likely it got worthless provinces at high BB cost and wasted many ducats or worthless stuff.

About not liking me... I dont care if you like me or not, i promised Jorian i would sub him today and i intend to. If you will not play, then, too bad i supose - we could just AI England and see how much you like it. :D

No. I don't like you because you were specifically not permitted in this game. And now, even though Jorian has asked you to sub it is very arrogant of you to start arguing the player position, as if you were the player, and not the sub.

Capiche?
 

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I got to agree with EGO on this one ;)

crushing AI is really easy and with Burgundy is even more easy ;)

The issue is that Burgundy was treated as invulenerable, and as such aquired 3 core provinces, and we could niether negotiate or oppose this, if we chose. simple.
 

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No. I don't like you because you were specifically not permitted in this game. And now, even though Jorian has asked you to sub it is very arrogant of you to start arguing the player position, as if you were the player, and not the sub.

Capiche?

I was not allowed to play on the game because i am not a noob. ;)

And how am i being arrogant just asking edits for a nation that was AIed? Frankly, i miss the point. To me, it seems that England just wants to see Burgundy weakened in all ways possible.

As i said - ask the entire forum, create a specific thread if you want. If you do so, you will see that everyone will agree that this Burgundy needs edits.

The issue is that Burgundy was treated as invulenerable, and as such aquired 3 core provinces, and we could niether negotiate or oppose this, if we chose. simple.

If the perm was there, he would have obtained more provinces. Yes, it is true that it may suck to see the AI taking provinces away and not being able to do anything against it, but, that is why ghosting is used. If nations were ghosted, and not AIed, this problem would not even exist.

P.S. I may be wrong, but after checking the logs, didnt Burgundy DA some of its vassals? Vassals that possessed provinces that were Burgundy's cores?
 

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Bah. No game today... I am sad. :(