Quick Questions Thread

[ViolentBeetle]

Can I use a civic to block certain authority or block change of authority? (For example, in my case, you pick the civic at the start, you stuck with dictatorial)

I believe conditions for authorities are in authority files and I don't want to overwrite.

 

[littleraskol]

Civic that requires Dictatorial authority and can't be changed or removed?

 

[LogicSequence]

How do you identify a species within your country (not main species), for the sake of say, a trigger, without being able to save them as an event target or without them having a unique trait?

 

[Sayonaki Tatsu]

Is there a on_action for when new empire is created mid-game? Like with liberation wars and when a vassal is created?

 

[littleraskol]

Is there a on_action for when new empire is created mid-game? Like with liberation wars and when a vassal is created?

I'd try to use empire_init_add_technologies maybe. The comment says this:

# called during empire initialization when starting a new game

But I have a feeling that empires created mid-game also call this at some point because they also need starting technologies added. It's a guess though.

eta: This would not be the case for nations split off from existing ones though, I'm more thinking primitives that become FTL-capable.

 

[littleraskol]

How do you identify a species within your country (not main species), for the sake of say, a trigger, without being able to save them as an event target or without them having a unique trait?

What criteria about this species is interesting to you?

If this is a species you meddle with at some point and then need to find later, you could use global_event_target maybe.

 

[LogicSequence]

What criteria about this species is interesting to you?

If this is a species you meddle with at some point and then need to find later, you could use global_event_target maybe.

Yes it is, will that work for non event identification, such as for excluding them from factions, etc...

 

[littleraskol]

Yes it is, will that work for non event identification, such as for excluding them from factions, etc...

No idea. Might be something you have to try. I also searched but did not find any "set_species_flag" in the base game files so that's out.

 

[ViolentBeetle]

Civic that requires Dictatorial authority and can't be changed or removed?

Then it would just stop working on authority change. Not block authority from changing, no?

 

[crowdemon]

Does anyone know how to modify the output for deposits. For example, the code below here, but for mining and research station.

country_edict = {
    name = "resources"
    modifier = {
    tile_resource_unity_mult = 50
    tile_resource_minerals_mult = 10
    tile_resource_energy_mult = 5
    country_resource_influence_add = 100
    }
    allow = {
    }
    ai_weight = {
        weight = 0     
    } 
}

 

[littleraskol]

Then it would just stop working on authority change. Not block authority from changing, no?

Hm, I was thinking about it in terms of a "soft block," in that the player would not want to implement a different authority and lose the effect of a civic they can't replace. But what if, for example, ethos shift makes an empire Egalitarian? Yeah, the authority would have to change in that case.

 

[ViolentBeetle]

Hm, I was thinking about it in terms of a "soft block," in that the player would not want to implement a different authority and lose the effect of a civic they can't replace. But what if, for example, ethos shift makes an empire Egalitarian? Yeah, the authority would have to change in that case.

I never really experienced ethic shift on this axis, does it authomatically push towards acceptable?

I was thinking about maybe making my own take on more civic mods and make a civic where your country is ruled by an immortal robot. This is not soft cap friendly.

 

[Persepheus]

Does anyone know how to modify the output for deposits. For example, the code below here, but for mining and research station.

country_edict = {
    name = "resources"
    modifier = {
    tile_resource_unity_mult = 50
    tile_resource_minerals_mult = 10
    tile_resource_energy_mult = 5
    country_resource_influence_add = 100
    }
    allow = {
    }
    ai_weight = {
        weight = 0    
    }
}

I don't think that it is possible , i cannot recall any event or Situation, where this done. I guess u could Do a global modifier like in the civic

 

[Mouthwash]

Is it conceivable that some sort of 'decadence' mechanic could be added? I'd love to see some kind of endless turnover where the fallen empires would really just be regular empires with literally thousands of years of ingame history... like Dwarf Fortress in space.

 

[spriggan02]

Does anyone know how to modify the output for deposits. For example, the code below here, but for mining and research station.

country_edict = {
    name = "resources"
    modifier = {
    tile_resource_unity_mult = 50
    tile_resource_minerals_mult = 10
    tile_resource_energy_mult = 5
    country_resource_influence_add = 100
    }
    allow = {
    }
    ai_weight = {
        weight = 0   
    }
}

trying to do pretty much the same thing. I've been trying to do this in the ship_sizes.txt but so far I haven't gotten it to work, using this:

mining_station = {
    max_speed = 0.0
    acceleration = 0.0
    rotation_speed = 0.0
    modifier = {
        ship_evasion_mult = -1
        ship_weapon_range_mult = 0.20
    }
    max_hitpoints = 2000
    section_slots = { "mid" = { locator = "part1" } }
    num_target_locators = 0
    is_space_station = yes
    build_block_radius = @build_block_radius_civilian
    is_civilian = no
    cost = 90
    components_add_to_cost = no
   
    enable_default_design = yes                    #if yes, countries will have an auto-generated design at start
    prerequisites = { "tech_space_construction" }
    class = shipclass_mining_station
    is_designable = no
    valid_target_aggressive_stance = no
    auto_upgrade = yes
                                                                    #Here starts what I tried to do
    from {                                                       #should scope to the planet the station is orbiting
    orbital_deposit_tile {
    add_deposit = d_vast_mineral_deposit
    }
    }
}

am I just doing something wrong or is it impossible to change a planets resource output (or deposits) by having a ship in orbit?

 

[Gaussia]

This is a messy one. I have been trying to change the wordings of some traditions (renaming descriptions and the name of some of the individual traditions in the different trees). Feels standard, should be easy (hint: not).

Start of with an simple question which I think is related: What is the number between the : and the " in the localisation entries (usually a 0). Example in:
tr_domination_fleet_levies:0 "Fleet Levies"
(I have been trying to play around with these numbers, but to no effect. I have not found what they do, but there have to be something?)

So basically, I copied the "traditions_l_english.yml", pasted it into my mod and opened it in notepad++. I then changed the text within " " of a few entries. Some changes passed, some didn't. Strange. Now starts the de-bugging. I didn't get hold of the problem but have some results.

Step 1: Change all entries to BlaBla:

Spoiler: Step 1

tradition_expansion:2 "BlaBla"
 #tradition_expansion_desc: "We must spread our civilization to new systems and planets if we are to survive. As other empires emerge on the galactic scene, competition will be fierce. The faster we can establish new colonies, the better."
 tradition_expansion_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_adopt:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_adopt_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_adopt_effect:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_delayed:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_delayed:2 "BlaBla"
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships: "Standardized Colony Ships"
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_desc: "Immediately give you a free §Y$colonizer$§!. In addition, §Y$shipsize_colonizer_construction_speed_mult$§! is increased by §G+100%§!."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_delayed: "Simplified designs and less expensive materials allow us to mass-produce colony ships on a hitherto unseen scale. Our colonists may not enjoy as many creature comforts during transport to their new homes, but these ships will still get them where they're going."
 tr_expansion_courier_network:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_courier_network_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_courier_network_delayed:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_delayed:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_desc:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_delayed:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_finish:2 "BlaBla"
 tr_expansion_finish_effect:2 "BlaBla"

Some entries were changed to "BlaBla", most didn't.

Second Step: Add AAAAAAA at the start of every entry:

Spoiler: Step 2

 tradition_expansion:0 "AAAAAAAExpansion"
 #tradition_expansion_desc: "We must spread our civilization to new systems and planets if we are to survive. As other empires emerge on the galactic scene, competition will be fierce. The faster we can establish new colonies, the better."
 tradition_expansion_desc:0 "AAAAAAAWe must expand our civilization to new systems and planets or risk eventual extinction."
 tr_expansion_adopt:0 "AAAAAAAExpansion Traditions"
 tr_expansion_adopt_desc:0 "AAAAAAA$tradition_expansion_desc$\n\n$tr_expansion_adopt_effect$\n\n$tr_expansion_finish_effect$"
 tr_expansion_adopt_effect:0 "AAAAAAA§E$TRADITIONS_ADOPT$:§!\nNew colonies start with §Y1§! additional £pops  Pop."
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever:0 "AAAAAAAColonization Fever"
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_desc:0 "AAAAAAA§YCapital buildings§! now produce §Y1§! additional £unity  Unity."
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_delayed:0 "AAAAAAAColonization fever seems to have gripped the populace. Their enthusiasm and patriotic fervor grows for every new world claimed by our colonists."
 tr_expansion_a_new_life:0 "AAAAAAAA New Life"
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_desc:1 "AAAAAAA£pops  Pop §Y$MOD_POP_GROWTH_SPEED$§! increased by §G+10%§! and §Y$MOD_PLANET_COLONY_DEVELOPMENT_SPEED_MULT$§! increased by §G+50%§!."
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_delayed:0 "AAAAAAAA new life awaits our citizens in the off-world colonies. A chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure! With the help of an aggressive marketing campaign, the less fortunate  elements of our society will be flocking to our colony ships."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships: "Standardized Colony Ships"
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_desc: "Immediately give you a free §Y$colonizer$§!. In addition, §Y$shipsize_colonizer_construction_speed_mult$§! is increased by §G+100%§!."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_delayed: "Simplified designs and less expensive materials allow us to mass-produce colony ships on a hitherto unseen scale. Our colonists may not enjoy as many creature comforts during transport to their new homes, but these ships will still get them where they're going."
 tr_expansion_courier_network:0 "AAAAAAACourier Network"
 tr_expansion_courier_network_desc:0 "AAAAAAAThe effect on increased §Y$TRADITION_COST$§! caused by number of colonies is reduced by §G-33%§!."
 tr_expansion_courier_network_delayed:0 "AAAAAAAA network of small courier vessels is a reliable alternative for transporting VIPs or delivering messages that can't be trusted to FTL communications. This will tie our far-flung colonies more closely together."
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars:0 "AAAAAAAReach for the Stars"
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_desc:0 "AAAAAAAFor the purpose of colonizing and building §YFrontier Outposts§!, systems count as being half the regular distance away."
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_delayed:0 "AAAAAAAThe frontiers of our star nation are being pushed ever forwards. Soon, nothing in this galaxy will lie beyond our grasp..."
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition:0 "AAAAAAAGalactic Ambition"
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_desc:1 "AAAAAAA§Y$shipsize_outpost_station_upkeep_mult$§! reduced by §G-50%§!."
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_delayed:0 "AAAAAAAThe banner of our great empire will one day be as common as hydrogen throughout the galaxy."
 tr_expansion_finish:0 "AAAAAAAExpansion Traditions Finished"
 tr_expansion_finish_effect:0 "AAAAAAA§E$TRADITIONS_FINISH$:§!\nAdopting all $tr_expansion_adopt$ increases our §Y$MOD_COUNTRY_CORE_SECTOR_SYSTEM_CAP$§! by §Y2§!."

About half the entries get "AAAAAAA" in the beginning.

Third Step: Add ZZZZZZZ at the beginning of all entries:

Spoiler: Third Step

 tradition_expansion:0 "ZZZZZZZExpansion"
 #tradition_expansion_desc: "We must spread our civilization to new systems and planets if we are to survive. As other empires emerge on the galactic scene, competition will be fierce. The faster we can establish new colonies, the better."
 tradition_expansion_desc:0 "ZZZZZZZWe must expand our civilization to new systems and planets or risk eventual extinction."
 tr_expansion_adopt:0 "ZZZZZZZExpansion Traditions"
 tr_expansion_adopt_desc:0 "ZZZZZZZ$tradition_expansion_desc$\n\n$tr_expansion_adopt_effect$\n\n$tr_expansion_finish_effect$"
 tr_expansion_adopt_effect:0 "ZZZZZZZ§E$TRADITIONS_ADOPT$:§!\nNew colonies start with §Y1§! additional £pops  Pop."
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever:0 "ZZZZZZZColonization Fever"
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_desc:0 "ZZZZZZZ§YCapital buildings§! now produce §Y1§! additional £unity  Unity."
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_delayed:0 "ZZZZZZZColonization fever seems to have gripped the populace. Their enthusiasm and patriotic fervor grows for every new world claimed by our colonists."
 tr_expansion_a_new_life:0 "ZZZZZZZA New Life"
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_desc:1 "ZZZZZZZ£pops  Pop §Y$MOD_POP_GROWTH_SPEED$§! increased by §G+10%§! and §Y$MOD_PLANET_COLONY_DEVELOPMENT_SPEED_MULT$§! increased by §G+50%§!."
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_delayed:0 "ZZZZZZZA new life awaits our citizens in the off-world colonies. A chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure! With the help of an aggressive marketing campaign, the less fortunate  elements of our society will be flocking to our colony ships."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships: "Standardized Colony Ships"
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_desc: "Immediately give you a free §Y$colonizer$§!. In addition, §Y$shipsize_colonizer_construction_speed_mult$§! is increased by §G+100%§!."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_delayed: "Simplified designs and less expensive materials allow us to mass-produce colony ships on a hitherto unseen scale. Our colonists may not enjoy as many creature comforts during transport to their new homes, but these ships will still get them where they're going."
 tr_expansion_courier_network:0 "ZZZZZZZCourier Network"
 tr_expansion_courier_network_desc:0 "ZZZZZZZThe effect on increased §Y$TRADITION_COST$§! caused by number of colonies is reduced by §G-33%§!."
 tr_expansion_courier_network_delayed:0 "ZZZZZZZA network of small courier vessels is a reliable alternative for transporting VIPs or delivering messages that can't be trusted to FTL communications. This will tie our far-flung colonies more closely together."
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars:0 "ZZZZZZZReach for the Stars"
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_desc:0 "ZZZZZZZFor the purpose of colonizing and building §YFrontier Outposts§!, systems count as being half the regular distance away."
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_delayed:0 "ZZZZZZZThe frontiers of our star nation are being pushed ever forwards. Soon, nothing in this galaxy will lie beyond our grasp..."
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition:0 "ZZZZZZZGalactic Ambition"
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_desc:1 "ZZZZZZZ§Y$shipsize_outpost_station_upkeep_mult$§! reduced by §G-50%§!."
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_delayed:0 "ZZZZZZZThe banner of our great empire will one day be as common as hydrogen throughout the galaxy."
 tr_expansion_finish:0 "ZZZZZZZExpansion Traditions Finished"
 tr_expansion_finish_effect:0 "ZZZZZZZ§E$TRADITIONS_FINISH$:§!\nAdopting all $tr_expansion_adopt$ increases our §Y$MOD_COUNTRY_CORE_SECTOR_SYSTEM_CAP$§! by §Y2§!."

This have no effect what so ever.

Fourth Step: Add 000 At the start of every Entry.

Spoiler: Fourth Step

 tradition_expansion:0 "000Expansion"
 #tradition_expansion_desc: "We must spread our civilization to new systems and planets if we are to survive. As other empires emerge on the galactic scene, competition will be fierce. The faster we can establish new colonies, the better."
 tradition_expansion_desc:0 "000We must expand our civilization to new systems and planets or risk eventual extinction."
 tr_expansion_adopt:0 "000Expansion Traditions"
 tr_expansion_adopt_desc:0 "000$tradition_expansion_desc$\n\n$tr_expansion_adopt_effect$\n\n$tr_expansion_finish_effect$"
 tr_expansion_adopt_effect:0 "000§E$TRADITIONS_ADOPT$:§!\nNew colonies start with §Y1§! additional £pops  Pop."
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever:0 "000Colonization Fever"
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_desc:0 "000§YCapital buildings§! now produce §Y1§! additional £unity  Unity."
 tr_expansion_colonization_fever_delayed:0 "000Colonization fever seems to have gripped the populace. Their enthusiasm and patriotic fervor grows for every new world claimed by our colonists."
 tr_expansion_a_new_life:0 "000A New Life"
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_desc:1 "000£pops  Pop §Y$MOD_POP_GROWTH_SPEED$§! increased by §G+10%§! and §Y$MOD_PLANET_COLONY_DEVELOPMENT_SPEED_MULT$§! increased by §G+50%§!."
 tr_expansion_a_new_life_delayed:0 "000A new life awaits our citizens in the off-world colonies. A chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure! With the help of an aggressive marketing campaign, the less fortunate  elements of our society will be flocking to our colony ships."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships: "Standardized Colony Ships"
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_desc: "Immediately give you a free §Y$colonizer$§!. In addition, §Y$shipsize_colonizer_construction_speed_mult$§! is increased by §G+100%§!."
#tr_expansion_standardized_colony_ships_delayed: "Simplified designs and less expensive materials allow us to mass-produce colony ships on a hitherto unseen scale. Our colonists may not enjoy as many creature comforts during transport to their new homes, but these ships will still get them where they're going."
 tr_expansion_courier_network:0 "000Courier Network"
 tr_expansion_courier_network_desc:0 "000The effect on increased §Y$TRADITION_COST$§! caused by number of colonies is reduced by §G-33%§!."
 tr_expansion_courier_network_delayed:0 "000A network of small courier vessels is a reliable alternative for transporting VIPs or delivering messages that can't be trusted to FTL communications. This will tie our far-flung colonies more closely together."
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars:0 "000Reach for the Stars"
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_desc:0 "000For the purpose of colonizing and building §YFrontier Outposts§!, systems count as being half the regular distance away."
 tr_expansion_reach_for_the_stars_delayed:0 "000The frontiers of our star nation are being pushed ever forwards. Soon, nothing in this galaxy will lie beyond our grasp..."
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition:0 "000Galactic Ambition"
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_desc:1 "000§Y$shipsize_outpost_station_upkeep_mult$§! reduced by §G-50%§!."
 tr_expansion_galactic_ambition_delayed:0 "000The banner of our great empire will one day be as common as hydrogen throughout the galaxy."
 tr_expansion_finish:0 "000Expansion Traditions Finished"
 tr_expansion_finish_effect:0 "000§E$TRADITIONS_FINISH$:§!\nAdopting all $tr_expansion_adopt$ increases our §Y$MOD_COUNTRY_CORE_SECTOR_SYSTEM_CAP$§! by §Y2§!."

Most entries start of with 000, but a few of the _desc does not.

I've also tried various namings of the file. Keeping the original name, adding zzz_ in the beginning, adding 000_ in the beginning.

At this stage I have no idea what is happening. I still can't change everything, and it is not like I want my entries to start with "000" either. It feels like this should be a simle(ish) thing to do, but now it feels just messed up. I've tried to change the numbers in the middle (between : and ", usually a 0), but they seem to have no effect. I've tried both all -1, all 2 and all 100.

(Someone please help)

 

[Sayonaki Tatsu]

Is there a way to make random_list dynamic?
For example, there's a mechanic I want to implement - annexation of primitives without actual land invasion via special project for which a fleet enters orbit and intimidates primitives into submission. I want it to work differently (and randomly) depending on how developed are primitives in comparison with fleet power. Is there a way to put some kind of variable instead of a number or block an option with limit or trigger?
For now the only idea I have is quite dangerous in terms of potential fall into infinite loop.

Spoiler

    set_planet_flag = is_intimidated
    while = {
        limit = {
            has_planet_flag = is_intimidated
        }
        random_list = {
            25 = {
                if = {
                    limit = {
                        [whatever]
                    }
                    remove_planet_flag = is_intimidated
                }
            }
            25 = {
                if = {
                    limit = {
                        [whatever]
                    }
                    remove_planet_flag = is_intimidated
                }
            }
            25 = {
                    remove_planet_flag = is_intimidated
                }
            }
        }
    }

- something like this. I think, I could work with that regardless, but wondering if there is a better way.

 

[ViolentBeetle]

Hey, is it possible to set planet's orbit from the sun rather then previously spawned or count it backwards?

I don't think example is clear on it and it makes mixing random number of planets with asteroid belt with actual asteroids problematic.

 

[Risa]

is it possible to set planet's orbit from the sun rather then previously spawned

I think the answer is no. That's why vanilla initializer basic_init_04 define asteroids first, then move orbit back to define random planets inside the asteroid belt.

 

[Vitruvian Guar]

Guys I'm trying to make an event that occurs on a habitable planet during colonisation.

So I found out that I need to create my own On_Action file

on_colonization_started = {
    events = {
        colony.242
    }
}

The event code is like this

planet_event = {
    id = colony.242
    hide_window = yes

    is_triggered_only = yes
    fire_only_once = yes
    
    immediate = {
        planet_event = { id = colony.243 days = 30 }
    }
 
}

As far as I understand, that should trigger the event on the first colonisation attempt of any planet. However, that doesn't seem to be happening. Is there some problem with on_action?