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Hi I haven't played CK2 for the last few months so when I heard about Horse Lords, I started up again. Of course, I immediately installed this mod but I've noticed its somewhat slow. Is this normal?
 

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Hi I haven't played CK2 for the last few months so when I heard about Horse Lords, I started up again. Of course, I immediately installed this mod but I've noticed its somewhat slow. Is this normal?

Yes. CK2Plus adds a lot of content. It will be slower than vanilla.
 
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Druze don't get Absolute Cognatic in CK2+, do they?

Nope. They're part of the muslim religious group. Have been considering moving them, though I've no idea where I'd move it to -- I certainly don't want to create a new religion group just for them.
 

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A few questions:

1. I gained infirm trait at age 47 out of blue when my character had a perfectly good health... I thought it was supposed to be obtainable after age 50 according to wiki. What's the conditions for getting infirm trait event?

2. As a tribe, when I conquer a feudal land without tribal village, Garrisons and levies constantly go back to 0. Is this intended?

3. When I, as a count, hold multiple claims against another duke's vassals, I can't press an individual claim but only do 'press all claims.' I don't really want that because some of those claims belong to the counties owned by my dynasty members. Is there a way to press only one claim I want rather than pressing them all?
 

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A few questions:

1. I gained infirm trait at age 47 out of blue when my character had a perfectly good health... I thought it was supposed to be obtainable after age 50 according to wiki. What's the conditions for getting infirm trait event?

Checking the event code and it looks like the wiki is wrong. The sole requirement is being at least 45 and not already being infirm or incapable, with the MTTH being altered by age and health.

So it looks like you simply got the short end of the RNG stick in this case unfortunately.
 

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Checking the event code and it looks like the wiki is wrong. The sole requirement is being at least 45 and not already being infirm or incapable, with the MTTH being altered by age and health.

So it looks like you simply got the short end of the RNG stick in this case unfortunately.


Thank you. It was really disheartening to see my ruler-designer-made character gone like that.
 

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2. As a tribe, when I conquer a feudal land without tribal village, Garrisons and levies constantly go back to 0. Is this intended?

Vanilla bug, and one they hopefully will fix soon. It's rather nasty for tribals.

3. When I, as a count, hold multiple claims against another duke's vassals, I can't press an individual claim but only do 'press all claims.' I don't really want that because some of those claims belong to the counties owned by my dynasty members. Is there a way to press only one claim I want rather than pressing them all?

Not currently -- it was likely removed to avoid cluttering the interface. We could change that, I suppose, but I'm not sure how many would make that distinction.
 

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Why are there two Islamic heresies called "Khariji" and "Kharijite"? Are they not one and the same? Especially when, as I understand it, Kharijite is meant to be a heresy of Shiite (in game/CK2+) and shouldn't Zikri be a heresy for Sunni? "Khariji" replaces "Zikri" it seems.
 
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So uhh, playing a Greek king (Shattered Realm), and in 952 my son converted from Orthodox to Chalcedonian, followed by my character.

My main problem is no event (checked both major and minor event queues, first event is "Heretic Capital")

Tried reloading my game from the autosave, happened again, So not random event?

but also:
1) Isn't this the wrong way? o.o
2) What is so special about 952? Is it just someone else getting and event and no-one bothered to write an event for the receiving ruler?
3) Why in the world would Orthodox have a heretic penalty for a Chalcedonian ruler? wut? Also, wouldn't the head of the church in Constantinople be the same?

Waldensian has taken over for Catholicism (it goes back and forth every five years or so)

*confused*
 

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Why are there two Islamic heresies called "Khariji" and "Kharijite"? Are they not one and the same? Especially when, as I understand it, Kharijite is meant to be a heresy of Shiite (in game/CK2+) and shouldn't Zikri be a heresy for Sunni? "Khariji" replaces "Zikri" it seems.

Possibly it's an old change to the localization that I missed. I'll get rid of it.
 

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What's the requirements to appoint a chaplain and a spymaster? There is only ever 1 candidate in my county for the former and only a few for the latter.

Spymaster needs to have Intrigue education, but chaplain depends on your religion.
 

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So uhh, playing a Greek king (Shattered Realm), and in 952 my son converted from Orthodox to Chalcedonian, followed by my character.

My main problem is no event (checked both major and minor event queues, first event is "Heretic Capital")

Tried reloading my game from the autosave, happened again, So not random event?

but also:
1) Isn't this the wrong way? o.o
2) What is so special about 952? Is it just someone else getting and event and no-one bothered to write an event for the receiving ruler?
3) Why in the world would Orthodox have a heretic penalty for a Chalcedonian ruler? wut? Also, wouldn't the head of the church in Constantinople be the same?

Waldensian has taken over for Catholicism (it goes back and forth every five years or so)

*confused*

Are you playing an old save? If so, it'll convert any Orthodox characters back to Chalcedonian because it thinks the schism hasn't happened yet.
 

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Are you playing an old save? If so, it'll convert any Orthodox characters back to Chalcedonian because it thinks the schism hasn't happened yet.

Uhh, got the mod... last week? From steam, playing a save from then....

It'll randomly convert them one at a time? Because it did seem to be hitting a lot of orthodox characters, but not all at once...

Heh, got it, this is a new feature. Just went to start a new game and saw the religion change. Neat!

So here is another quick question: Easy way to stop the mod from updating? It'd be great if I go start another game if I could lock down the mod version while I play it out... :p

Edit: Quick google suggests this is not possible by default on steam, Sad. It'd be nice to have a work around that effectively allowed it, given how long CK2 games take...
 
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There's no way to stop Steam from auto-updating, other than to unsubscribe after you've downloaded. That's just how it works, I can warn folks on the workshop, but if you don't happen to read it, you'll have no idea what's happened -- it doesn't even tell you it's updating.

Less than ideal, but there's nothing we can do about it (other than to stop using Steam to distribute). You can unsubscribe and manually install the old version, though, if you have a game ongoing.
 

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Possibly it's an old change to the localization that I missed. I'll get rid of it.

Awesome. Glad to see you'll take a look at it.

Also, if you could please take a look at k_england.txt and add the following to the first entry in the file -

effect = { reset_coa = THIS }

That would be great. Reason is (I posted this in the bug thread), England's coat of arms does not reset upon exiting the campaign like Italy's/Lombardy's does, so this trigger will add the effect of resetting the COA to how it is meant to be before the Normans/Plantagenets. Thanks, Rylock!
 
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There's no way to stop Steam from auto-updating, other than to unsubscribe after you've downloaded. That's just how it works, I can warn folks on the workshop, but if you don't happen to read it, you'll have no idea what's happened -- it doesn't even tell you it's updating.

Less than ideal, but there's nothing we can do about it (other than to stop using Steam to distribute). You can unsubscribe and manually install the old version, though, if you have a game ongoing.

Looks like I just got hosed by timing, decided to try the mod right before a major update. Looking at the history, updates that are not back-compat are not too frequent, so I figure it will be fine.
 
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