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Excommunication Casus Belli against Venice? They are a Merchant Republic, they have an UNexcommunicable ruler. Maybe you declared war on someone allies and Venice took the leadership in that war.
 

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Annexing a One Province Venice (Venice) with an Excommunication Casus Belli gives me 8.0 infamy instead of the expected 2.0... what did I not take into account?
Pretty sure the culture group requirement applies to full annexation as well as demand provinces.

Excommunication Casus Belli against Venice? They are a Merchant Republic, they have an UNexcommunicable ruler. Maybe you declared war on someone allies and Venice took the leadership in that war.
Republics can have their rulers excommunicated.
 

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:) that sounds odd :p
Thx for the info mate :D

Why? If that ruler is particularly unchristian, why should he not be excommunicated? The CB goes away after the next election, since it is excommunication against the ruler, not the country, so everything is fine.

Is Alexandria outside your trade range?
European powers can only trade through horde-owned CoTs after they've been defeated in battle since they can't "Open Market" because you can't send diplomats their way.

No, thats not it, if something is out of trade range it is displayed red, which it wasn't in that case. And i am pretty sure that i defeated the hordes before. In fact, they basically only appeared at my borders every 5 years to get a beating and concede defeat, until i finally got some vassals in the way so that they would stop annoying me. One would assume that they get the message after being beaten senseless within half a year for the tenth time in a row.
 

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Annexing a One Province Venice (Venice) with an Excommunication Casus Belli gives me 8.0 infamy instead of the expected 2.0... what did I not take into account?

That Venice isn't in your cultural group. Excommunication's infamy discounts only apply to provinces within your cultural group. It's like an early Nationalism CB, I guess.
 

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European powers can only trade through horde-owned CoTs after they've been defeated in battle since they can't "Open Market" because you can't send diplomats their way.
And i am pretty sure that i defeated the hordes before. In fact, they basically only appeared at my borders every 5 years to get a beating and concede defeat, until i finally got some vassals in the way so that they would stop annoying me. One would assume that they get the message after being beaten senseless within half a year for the tenth time in a row.
I don't think battle has anything to do with it; most likely non-hordes can only send merchants to horde-owned CoTs if the province is controlled by a non-horde. That shouldn't have anything to do with Alexandria though since Mamluks aren't a horde.
Do you have a (zipped) savegame you could upload somewhere and post a link to?
 

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what counts as overseas provinces?

my turkish provinces like Erserum are connected to Europe via Marmara strait so it's not overseas but the one next to it - Imereti - is overseas and tariffs apply??
A province is considered Distant Overseas if none of the following are true:

  • The province is within 250 (if I recall correctly) of your capital.
  • The province has a land connection to your capital.
  • The province is on the same continent as your capital.

It's important to remember that if the path between a province and your capital is obstructed by a solid wall of sieges and/or occupied provinces it does not have a land connection, so it's possible for provinces to flip between Distant Overseas and normal cities during wartime or due to rebels.
 

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A province is considered Distant Overseas if none of the following are true:

  • The province is within 250 (if I recall correctly) of your capital.
  • The province has a land connection to your capital.
  • The province is on the same continent as your capital.

It's important to remember that if the path between a province and your capital is obstructed by a solid wall of sieges and/or occupied provinces it does not have a land connection, so it's possible for provinces to flip between Distant Overseas and normal cities during wartime or due to rebels.
might be the distance from Rome then. and the Turkish provinces are within 250 distance then, I guess
thanks
 

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It should be possible, because the Basque culture is both French and Spanish.
Basque is in its own culture group. The reason it can form Spain/France is because there is a special allowance for it:

Code:
country_decisions = {

	spanish_nation = {
		potential = {
			NOT = { tag = FRA }		# Basque is a valid culture for both FRA and SPA
			NOT = { exists = SPA }
			NOT = { tag = PAP }
			NOT = { tag = HRE }
			OR = {
				culture_group = iberian
				primary_culture = basque
			}
		}
		allow = 
		{
			owns = 213	# Barcelona
			owns = 214	# Aragón
			owns = 215	# Castilla La Vieja
			owns = 216	# Salamanca
			owns = 224	# Andalucia
			owns = 219	# Toledo
			owns = 220	# Valencia
			
			is_core = 213	# Barcelona
			is_core = 214	# Aragón
			is_core = 215	# Castilla La Vieja
			is_core = 216	# Salamanca
			is_core = 224	# Andalucia
			is_core = 219	# Toledo
			is_core = 220	# Valencia
			
			war = no
		}
	  effect = {
			SPA = {
				add_core = 197		# Roussillon
				add_core = 206		# Galicia
				add_core = 207		# Asturias
				add_core = 208		# León
				add_core = 209		# Vizcaya
				add_core = 210		# Navarra
				add_core = 211		# Pirineo
				add_core = 212		# Girona
				add_core = 213		# Barcelona
				add_core = 214		# Aragon
				add_core = 215		# Castilla la Vieja
				add_core = 216		# Salamanca
				add_core = 217		# Madrid
				add_core = 218		# Badajoz
				add_core = 219		# Toledo
				add_core = 220		# Valencia
				add_core = 221		# Murcia
				add_core = 222		# Almeria
				add_core = 223		# Granada
				add_core = 224		# Andalucia
				add_core = 225		# Córdoba
				add_core = 226		# Gibraltar
				add_core = 333		# The Baleares
				add_core = 366		# The Canarias
				add_core = 1745		# Cantabria
				add_core = 1746		# Burgos
				add_core = 1747		# Caceres
				add_core = 1748		# La Mancha
				add_core = 1749		# Cadiz
				add_core = 1750		# Alicante
			}	
			
			centralization_decentralization = -2
			colonists = 1
			random_owned = {
				base_tax = 1
			}
			prestige = 0.05
			change_tag = SPA
			SPA = {
				any_owned = {
					limit = { province_id = 217 owned_by = THIS }
					capital = 217	# Madrid
				}
			}
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
		ai_importance = 600
	}
	
}

Code:
country_decisions = {

	french_nation = {
		potential = {
			NOT = { tag = SPA }		# Basque is a valid culture for both FRA and SPA
			NOT = { tag = HRE }
			NOT = { tag = PAP }
			NOT = { exists = FRA }
			NOT = { exists = RFR }
			OR = {
				culture_group = french
				culture_group = basque_group
				primary_culture = breton
			}
		}
		allow = 
		{
			owns = 177	# Maine
			owns = 179	# Blois
			owns = 182	# Vermandois
			owns = 183	# Île-de-France
			owns = 184	# Orléannais
			owns = 185	# Othe
			owns = 186	# Champagne
			
			is_core = 177	# Maine
			is_core = 179	# Blois
			is_core = 182	# Vermandois
			is_core = 183	# Île-de-France
			is_core = 184	# Orléannais
			is_core = 185	# Othe
			is_core = 186	# Champagne
			
			war = no
		}
	  effect = {
			FRA = {
				add_core = 167		# Caux
				add_core = 168		# Normandie
				add_core = 173		# Saintonge
				add_core = 177		# Gascogne
				add_core = 178		# Anjou
				add_core = 179		# Blois
				add_core = 180		# Poitou
				add_core = 182		# Vermandois
				add_core = 183		# Ile-de-France
				add_core = 184		# Orléannais
				add_core = 185		# Othe
				add_core = 186		# Champagna
				add_core = 190		# Bourbon
				add_core = 194		# Périgord
				add_core = 195		# Limousin
				add_core = 196		# Toulouse
				add_core = 198		# Rouergue
				add_core = 199		# Auvergne
				add_core = 200		# Avignon
				add_core = 1743		# Cambray
				add_core = 1879		# Alencon
			}
			merchants = 1
			random_owned = {
				base_tax = 1
			}
			centralization_decentralization = -2
			prestige = 0.05
			change_tag = FRA
			FRA = {
				capital = 183
			}
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
	}
	
}
 

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The province is within 250 (if I recall correctly) of your capital.
That is old information. We don't know what the exact distance is now but it is very short. Only two or three provinces of North Africa are close enough to Castille for it not to get the penalty.

Erserum is considered to be in Europe and Imerti is in Asia in the game.
 

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How do I move my capital?
I own around 10 provinces in europe, but nearly all of the south america so I guess its smaret to move my capital there.
It needs to be isolated if you want to move it to a different continent. The best way is to move it to a European island province and then move it again to wherever you actually want it. Alternatively you can sell or release any provinces touching it.
 

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How do I move my capital?
I own around 10 provinces in europe, but nearly all of the south america so I guess its smaret to move my capital there.

You can only move your capital to a different continent if your capital is isolated -- has no other provinces owned by you next to it.

You can move capitals on the same continent without this restriction.