Is there any reason in 1.8 to westernize as them? Will it give me any long term advantage besides lowering technology costs?
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IMO there doesn't seem to be any reason to westernize unless you're a pagan nation. Due to the "balancing" of the mil tech groups, the lack of western unit access post-westernizing, and the fact that one can stack some -tech cost modifies pretty easily to make up for tech malus, westernizing seems completely unnessecary as of late.
Unless you're pagan, in which case you need to westernize to use that gold you're sitting on.
Unless you're pagan, in which case you need to westernize to use that gold you're sitting on.
Only if you want to protectorate-spam Asia for world domination purposes. Or if you want to use trade companies, but they're not really that important 
- Low piety, -10% at minimum.
- Western Arms Trade, -10%
- Islamic Centre of Scholarly Learning, -5%, requires 5+ dip leader.
- University, -5%
- Completing Administrative, Aristocratic, and Diplomatic Ideas, -10% in Admin, Mil, and Dip tech respectively.
- Innovative Ideas, -5% (I wouldn't recommend taking Innovative just for this paltry bonus. The main reason I find myself taking it is for the Army Tradition decay reduction, which, as the Ottomans, who can expand on several fronts at once and fight wars almost constantly, shouldn't be a problem.)
These are all the ones I can think of right now, but there are probably a few more.
- Western Arms Trade, -10%
- Islamic Centre of Scholarly Learning, -5%, requires 5+ dip leader.
- University, -5%
- Completing Administrative, Aristocratic, and Diplomatic Ideas, -10% in Admin, Mil, and Dip tech respectively.
- Innovative Ideas, -5% (I wouldn't recommend taking Innovative just for this paltry bonus. The main reason I find myself taking it is for the Army Tradition decay reduction, which, as the Ottomans, who can expand on several fronts at once and fight wars almost constantly, shouldn't be a problem.)
These are all the ones I can think of right now, but there are probably a few more.
Also each idea you take give you -2% (might also be -1%, dont remember exactly) in the corresponding tech, so for example a full trade idea group will also give you -14% dip tech.
The MP savings can definitely be worth it and often is in SP. It depends on the situation. To answer the OP's question, I probably wouldn't westernize as the Ottos because they are so rich. It would make the process take too long and therefore gimp the benefits too much.