Question to devs about Eastern European provinces in post-AoW

[wergy]

You may google up statistics and whatnots in about 3-4 minutes It took me 2 searches only to find relevant pages.

 

[Zak Preston]

You may google up statistics and whatnots in about 3-4 minutes It took me 2 searches only to find relevant pages.

Sorry, it took me 3 google searches to find out that total population of Lithuania was 20 millions, but I won't share the link

 

[DarkCruor]

http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/population/centraleurope.htm

 

[ponasozis]

i am not sure if it was written anywhere
but i am gonna write it here
Lithuanian and ostpreussen map in this game is made not how it is in real world like wtf ?
not to mention kaunas province being trough almost all lithuanian teritories offcourse making them all would be too strong etc
but just add another province in north of lithuania with like 3 base tax by name of auskaitija its a region of all northern part of lithuania basically
zemaitija being eastern part and vilnius with kaunas just being south richest parts of country
oh and smooth the ostprussen its really bad

 

[DarkCruor]

Why? It seems about as deep as a puddle now. They could at least sort out Crimea, and give Lithuania its bit of coast, since both these things affect gameplay, especially the second, where the Teutonics and Livonians have an ahistorical land bridge in 1444 which makes them too strong together.

While they did have a bit of coast, I'm not sure if they had a port big enough to actually build anything on.

Here is a pre-Melno treaty map (which the Teutons gave up all claims in Lithuania and gave them Polagna)

And this is one post Melno.

As I understand it Polagna was hardly a town when they got it from the Teutons being almost completely destroyed and with very little population. Even today it only has 15-20k population.


Now I guess they can do something like the weird boarders of Manchu or other countries and make some provinces look really weird to give Polagna to Lithuania but even then I don't think Lithuania actually had a Navy at this time besides fishing boats.

 

[Big Blue Blob]

Lithuania does not need a navy. What it needs is a strip of land blocking Teutonics from marching into Livonia, and the other way round. Square Memel needs to go.

 

[wergy]

Sorry, it took me 3 google searches to find out that total population of Lithuania was 20 millions, but I won't share the link

You really want me to post a wall of links here? Honestly, it wouldn't worth the effort because a) patriots cannot be convinced no matter what evidence you show them, and b) because Paradox won't change fundamental parts of the game just for the sake of a few eager patriots.

 

[Pannonius]

You really want me to post a wall of links here? Honestly, it wouldn't worth the effort because a) patriots cannot be convinced no matter what evidence you show them, and b) because Paradox won't change fundamental parts of the game just for the sake of a few eager patriots.

So why are you still upset about this thread then?

 

[Seelmeister]

If you aren't interested in engaging in the discussion, then please don't post short posts dismissing others views.

If you want to disagree with someone, do so without calling them a 'patriot' or anything else, give a reasoned responses.

 

[Big Blue Blob]

Patriot? I am French, and I support these changes.

 

[Aldwoni]

Another issue about Eastern Slavic region is wrong naming: most provinces tend to have Russian names instead of official ones. There may be a lot of debates about proper naming and how those cities/towns/provinces are spelled in English, but official names differ from what EU4 currently has. But there is a sad tendency about naming post-USSR provinces in Russian instead of native languages.

EU4.........................Ukrainian (Cyrillic)..........Latin transliteration........Russian (Cyrillic)..........Russian transliteration
Kiev.........................Київ [ˈkɪjiw]......................Kyiv................................Киев ['kijew]...................Kiev
Chernigov................ Чернігів [t͡ʃɛrˈnʲiɦiw] ............Chernihiv ........................Чернигов [tɕɪrˈnʲiɡəf]........Chernigov
Podolia.....................Поділля [po'dillia]..............Podillia............................Подолье [po'dollije].........Podolye
Novgorod-Seversky....Новгород-Сіверський........Novhorod-Siverskyi............Новгород-Северский.......Novgorod-Seversky

EU4.........................Belarussian (Cyrillic)......Latin transliteration........Russian (Cyrillic)...........Russian transliteration
Mogilev.....................Магілёў[maɣʲiˈlʲou̯]............. Mahilioŭ........................... Могилёв[məɡʲɪˈlʲof] ...........Mogilev
Grodno.....................Гродна[ˈhrodna]................Hrodna...........................Гродно [ˈɡrodnə]..............Grodno
Turov.......................Ту́раў['turau]....................Turaŭ..............................Туров['turof]....................Turov
Polotsk.....................По́лацк['polatsk]...............Polatsk............................Полоцк['polotsk]..............Polotsk

This is mostly because most regions are called this in english.
The province of Saxony is not called Sachsen either.

 

[trybald]

You may google up statistics and whatnots in about 3-4 minutes It took me 2 searches only to find relevant pages.

Now I see it. Research method also known as 'rectal extraction'.I

 

[Zak Preston]

After some short investigation I've found out that similar in height (to Crimean) mountains in Scotland are considered as "Hills". Also the Isthmus of Perekop was fortified to defend the Crimean peninsula from attackers. In gameplay terms there should be a penalty for an attacker that crosses the isthmus/

 

[Zak Preston]

An awesome collection of interactive historical maps of modern Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Belarussian, Polish and Russian territories (E4 timeline) is found.
Highly recommended to check the website.

 

[Big Blue Blob]

An awesome collection of interactive historical maps of modern Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Belarussian, Polish and Russian territories (E4 timeline) is found.
Highly recommended to check the website.

That resource collection is excellent. Thank you.

 

[Paratek]

If anyone is actually making a mod, may I join? My family is native from Velikiy Novgorod (within the in-game province of Novgorod), and I was rather annoyed when i found that half of the Novgorod Republic was turned into wasteland, and almost every East Slavic culture province was massive.

 

[deathsheep221]

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