Question on continuing old run.

[MrSnert]

So I was lead to understand that the new patch would not break old ironman saves, and also that the new monuments are part of this patch, not the DLC, which led me to the conclusion that I could continue my old Spain run from the previous version and would suddenly have a whole bunch of monuments all over the place. Now, while the save is iron-man compatible (which is great) in rhe new patch, the monuments are not showing. Did I simply misinterpret how this would work, or is there a way to continue my previous run with the new patch and its featured monuments?

 

[ArtFart]

I don't think a game can update from patch to patch. I am surprised your savegame is broken tbh

 

[MrSnert]

I don't think a game can update from patch to patch. I am surprised your savegame is broken tbh

It’s not broken, it’s just not added the new monuments. The old save is working in the new patch, my question is simply why the new monuments aren’t there.

 

[Miganto]

- You are correct, the monuments are in the 1.32 patch, not the dlc (but you must have leviathan installed)

To be on 1.32, your save game is likely broken, so i'm mostly thinking you haven't updated to 1.32 and are still on the beta branch 1.31.6, which wouldn't update to 1.32 automatically, or don't have leviathan installed.

Can you confirm your version and if you have leviathan?

 

[MrSnert]

- You are correct, the monuments are in the 1.32 patch, not the dlc (but you must have leviathan installed)

To be on 1.32, your save game is likely broken, so i'm mostly thinking you haven't updated to 1.32 and are still on the beta branch 1.31.6, which wouldn't update to 1.32 automatically, or don't have leviathan installed.

Can you confirm your version and if you have leviathan?

I’m on 1.32

 

[Miganto]

I’m on 1.32

+ have leviathan installed/activated?

 

[MrSnert]

+ have leviathan installed/activated?

Yes, all the old monuments are there etc. I’ve tested many things and even with Origins enabled (which does ruin the achievement-mode) there’s no new monuments. It just seems like the new monuments do not show up in saves started in previous versions. Its a real shame, cause I was under the impression that they would and I set much of my run up to already own many of the provinces where monuments were added. And it’s not like starting a new Spain run is even an option with the current PU AE issue :S

 

[ArtFart]

Yes, all the old monuments are there etc. I’ve tested many things and even with Origins enabled (which does ruin the achievement-mode) there’s no new monuments. It just seems like the new monuments do not show up in saves started in previous versions. Its a real shame, cause I was under the impression that they would and I set much of my run up to already own many of the provinces where monuments were added. And it’s not like starting a new Spain run is even an option with the current PU AE issue :S

Firstly, try opting into the beta patch. Secondly, I don't think you will see the new monuments. Iron man games aren't even supposed to work from earlier versions so you're lucky yours hasn't broken.

 

[MrSnert]

Firstly, try opting into the beta patch. Secondly, I don't think you will see the new monuments. Iron man games aren't even supposed to work from earlier versions so you're lucky yours hasn't broken.

Wasn’t the point of not adding new provinces that you could continue runs through new patches? I thought this was the whole idea! If it now turns out that yes, you can continue a run but no, not actually with the new features of the new patch, then I really don’t see the point.

 

[ArtFart]

Wasn’t the point of not adding new provinces that you could continue runs through new patches? I thought this was the whole idea! If it now turns out that yes, you can continue a run but no, not actually with the new features of the new patch, then I really don’t see the point.

Well you certainly won't be getting any new features of a patch on a current savegame. It's impossible. I can't think of many games that can even do that full stop.

As for Ironman breaking etc, I believe that was one of their main issues with the provinces, and maybe that's why your savegame is working. But as fair I am am aware, they're not supposed to be compatible.

 

[SirGregMac]

I would think save games/campaigns should work, as that was the first of many reasons Johan gave for not changing the map. If it's the first reason listed for not doing something, then that should work, save games/campaigns should not be broken. I completely understand new features, free or paid, not working in old saves, but the save should load and work given my previous sentences, but some of the newly added features might not work, understandable.

I ran into the same issue, had recently started a Castile run, loaded it up yesterday, while it loaded fine, none of the new monuments loaded, so I started a new Castile run as I hadn't finished my first colony yet so I wasn't that invested and all of the new monuments are present.

 

[MrSnert]

Well I must be some sort of idiot but what then is the reason for even wanting to have a run across multiple patches? I mean this was used as an excuse to deny new provinces to a continent in dire need of them, and for what? Just because some fools managed to fuck up their saves because they were too stupid or lazy to revert back to a previous version despite several warnings :S

 

[ArtFart]

Well I must be some sort of idiot but what then is the reason for even wanting to have a run across multiple patches? I mean this was used as an excuse to deny new provinces to a continent in dire need of them, and for what? Just because some fools managed to fuck up their saves because they were too stupid or lazy to revert back to a previous version despite several warnings :S

Yep I feel you. But I think the main reason for the provinces was the games engine, but for some reason they decided to make the save game thing the main reason, which seems stupid to me. Locking people to this map for the few that don't roll back to finish their saves. The real reason is that the games engine can't take any more provinces, as we saw with the significant performance drop off from 1.30 to 1.31.

 

[MrSnert]

Yep I feel you. But I think the main reason for the provinces was the games engine, but for some reason they decided to make the save game thing the main reason, which seems stupid to me. Locking people to this map for the few that don't roll back to finish their saves. The real reason is that the games engine can't take any more provinces, as we saw with the significant performance drop off from 1.30 to 1.31.

We’ll see. I’ve got a gnawing suspicion that it’ll turn out to be a one-time thing and we’ll hear ’performance has improved to the point where we can add provinces again’ to like Scandinavia in an upcoming patch or something and it will prove, at least in my mind, that despite some well-intentioned devs at Tinto who put a lot of effort in this pack the neocolonial mindset is alive and well at PDX and Africa, like always, got shafted..

 

[Mikeman23]

- You are correct, the monuments are in the 1.32 patch, not the dlc (but you must have leviathan installed)

To be on 1.32, your save game is likely broken, so i'm mostly thinking you haven't updated to 1.32 and are still on the beta branch 1.31.6, which wouldn't update to 1.32 automatically, or don't have leviathan installed.

Can you confirm your version and if you have leviathan?

So how do I download the most recent patch? I had been on the 1.31 beta but upgraded to the 1.33...yet the monuments are in 1.32 (If I'm reading this correctly). I went into the betas and the closest to the current patch is 1.32 (old version)