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zeress

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My question is if there is any way to make either or both of the Celtic holy orders into vassels. If not I'd like to suggest that.

I'd imagine the same way as any other holy order that shares your culture (the culture bit is important!). Give them land and ask for vassalization.
 

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Nothing happens for me when i do that. I rolled back to 2.1.6 to play, and yeah. Nothing increases moral authority other than winning holy wars, winning rebellions, and holy sites
 

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Nothing happens for me when i do that. I rolled back to 2.1.6 to play, and yeah. Nothing increases moral authority other than winning holy wars, winning rebellions, and holy sites

That's how MA is increased, other than converting provinces/rulers. What are you expecting to happen?
 

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Something like the norse? Increased authority when i succesfull conquer a county perhaps? Some other mechanis that makes it not impossible to get 50% MA without having 4-5 holy sites? Since it is extremly hard to convert provinces. Which i understand, but it is nigh impossible.
 

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Something you're forgetting is that, in CK2+, Unreformed pagans can raid, and looting a temple held by another religion increases your moral authority by 1% for 10 years or so for each temple looted. It's very possible to reform the celtic faith with only 3 holy sites if you do enough raiding.
 

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Something like the norse? Increased authority when i succesfull conquer a county perhaps? Some other mechanis that makes it not impossible to get 50% MA without having 4-5 holy sites? Since it is extremly hard to convert provinces. Which i understand, but it is nigh impossible.
So far as I know, the norse don't get MA from conquering.
 

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So far as I know, the norse don't get MA from conquering.

I think they get +1 if they use the county conquest CB in vanilla (and lose -1 if they lose the war) -- but that applies to all pagans. I don't believe we have that MA change in CK2+.