Question: no JAP-NAT war?

[Armfeldt]

HoI 1.05c, CORE 0.71.

The event that enables you to attack china early did not trigger for me. I had to wait for my WE to get to 100 % to declare war. The game was kinda ruined. What about the events before Marco Polo bridge? Do I have to pick any specific choices for the war to trigger? I got the bridge event, but there was only one option to pick, and war did not break out...

 

[J.J.E.]

Your government has to be fascist AFAIK. Choose the most right-wing prime ministers...

 

[Armfeldt]

I picked the historical (i.e. choice a) choice in every event I think... Shouldn't that trigger the war?

 

[Armfeldt]

Surely someone must know...

 

[Ghost_dk]

Surely someone must know...

What is your government type?

Ghost_dk

 

[Armfeldt]

Well I'm democratic, but according to the event files that has nothing to do with it as far as I can tell, I'm no expert however. BUT, I get no visual proof that event 1500084 triggers, and that event is required for the war to start. I might be wrong here, as I said I'm no expert...

 

[Ghost_dk]

Well I'm democratic, but according to the event files that has nothing to do with it as far as I can tell, I'm no expert however. BUT, I get no visual proof that event 1500084 triggers, and that event is required for the war to start. I might be wrong here, as I said I'm no expert...

The way I see it you must have choosen the wrong option in the follow up event for the marco polo bridge event. The a option sends you straight into war and negates the effect of declaring war when being a democracy, while the b option gives you 2 dissent.

Try loading the save file into notepad and search for "492029"

If it turns up in the fired events section you have choosen wrong otherwise i dont know what happened because with the triggers in the file there is no way it could not have fired no later then september 30, 1937 as it has a 40% chance of firing every second day.

Event 1500084 is the Hardcore choise event firing when you load the scenario and is there only to make sure that it is a Human player on Japan. Did you swithch countries while playing?

Ghost_dk

 

[Armfeldt]

I did not switch country while playing. In the MCB event I had only one alternative, "Negotioate a treaty" or something... And I got no follow up event...

I also searched the save file for the event, but I could not find it. Note that the death date had passed.

 

[Ghost_dk]

I did not switch country while playing. In the MCB event I had only one alternative, "Negotioate a treaty" or something... And I got no follow up event...

I also searched the save file for the event, but I could not find it. Note that the death date had passed.

I didn't think you had switched, only mentioned it becuase of the trigger which would not have worked if you had.

Like i said earlier, the follow up event has a 40% chance to fire every second day. That means the random trigger is checked 45 times within the period from date to deathdate. If you were so "unlucky" that you didn't get within the 40% any of these times you should probably play the lottery this weeked because you must have a thing for rare combinations. Try and trigger the event manually with F12. That the only thing to do if you still want the war with China.

Ghost_dk

 

[Ilkhold]

It's more probable to win the jackpot in a lottery than to miss this, but on the other hand, lottery wins occur quite often.

 

[Armfeldt]

Actually, I ran the game again, with the very same results... I do not think it is simply "bad" luck... Why don't I get two options in the main event?

 

[Armfeldt]

I think I found the problem. If you choose the hardest CORE difficulty in event 1500009, event 1500084 is sent to sleep. Event 1500084 is required for the MCB escalation event, 492029, so that explains it. Is this WAD?

EDIT: I just test-ran the game, having disabled the sleep event command. Now the war event triggered in july 1937.... I'm so happy!

 

[Ghost_dk]

I think I found the problem. If you choose the hardest CORE difficulty in event 1500009, event 1500084 is sent to sleep. Event 1500084 is required for the MCB escalation event, 492029, so that explains it. Is this WAD?

EDIT: I just test-ran the game, having disabled the sleep event command. Now the war event triggered in july 1937.... I'm so happy!

Terrific. I will pass this onto Copper Niccus who is our Hard C.O.R.E. guy

nice work

Ghost_dk

 

[gunboat]

Terrific. I will pass this onto Copper Niccus who is our Hard C.O.R.E. guy

nice work

Ghost_dk

I will second the "nice work" comment. I am just about to start a .71 Hard Core game as Japan, so this post will save me from some frustration.

 

[Ghost_dk]

I will second the "nice work" comment. I am just about to start a .71 Hard Core game as Japan, so this post will save me from some frustration.

what you need to do is replace the 15000084 trigger in the first marco polo bridge event with 15000009.

Ghost_dk

 

[unmerged(14683)]

I think I found the problem. If you choose the hardest CORE difficulty in event 1500009, event 1500084 is sent to sleep. Event 1500084 is required for the MCB escalation event, 492029, so that explains it. Is this WAD?

EDIT: I just test-ran the game, having disabled the sleep event command. Now the war event triggered in july 1937.... I'm so happy!

Thanks for spotting a bug, you are right - in fact the trigger in the MPB event should check, the player is human, so it should contain event that gives Human Only tech (don't remember the number, it's located in core_tech.txt file) or HARD CORE tech (event 1500084), so it should go:

OR = {

event = 1500084 # HARD CORE
event = ???????? # Human Only tech (where ?????? is number of the event)

}

I'll correct it for 0.72.

 

[gunboat]

Thanks for spotting a bug, you are right - in fact the trigger in the MPB event should check, the player is human, so it should contain event that gives Human Only tech (don't remember the number, it's located in core_tech.txt file) or HARD CORE tech (event 1500084), so it should go:

OR = {

event = 1500084 # HARD CORE
event = ???????? # Human Only tech (where ?????? is number of the event)

}

I'll correct it for 0.72.

could you explain how to do this with a little more detail? thanks

 

[unmerged(14683)]

This event should fire only, when JAP player is human (JAP AI uses alternative version of the Marco Polo Bridge event). Events in trigger (1500084 and the second one) are the ones that happen for humans only...

I'll post updated version of the triggers in few hours, when I reach my computer with 0.71 files.

 

[unmerged(14683)]

OK, proper trigger should include (instead of event = 1500084):

OR = {

technology = 4003 # Normal human technology
technology = 4004 # HARD CORE human technology

}

This will cover all the situations, when the JAP player is human.

Sorry for the problem, it will be corrected in CORE 0.72.

 

[gunboat]

OK, proper trigger should include (instead of event = 1500084):

OR = {

technology = 4003 # Normal human technology
technology = 4004 # HARD CORE human technology

}

This will cover all the situations, when the JAP player is human.

Sorry for the problem, it will be corrected in CORE 0.72.

Thanks for the help, but sorry to say I am still a little confused - what file do I alter and what event in the file do I alter? (sorry)