Question: How many people does one Pop represent?

[PK_AZ]

Like 1 billion, 2 billions, 5 billions? I want to know just how many freaky aliens I got in my crazy space empire.

At the end of the day its all about your roleplaying. But if you need specific value, I suggest 1 POP = 1.000.000 people. This estimation comes from early days of Stellaris, where your starting population was like 8 POPs - current Earth population is 7 or 8 billion people. WIth Le Guin, estimation makes even more sense.

 

[UltimateTobi]

At the end of the day its all about your roleplaying. But if you need specific value, I suggest 1 POP = 1.000.000 people. This estimation comes from early days of Stellaris, where your starting population was like 8 POPs - current Earth population is 7 or 8 billion people. WIth Le Guin, estimation makes even more sense.

Are you sure? Having 100 Pops on a planet would mean 100 billion.

 

[PK_AZ]

Are you sure? Having 100 Pops on a planet would mean 100 billion.

I get your point, its absurdly small (for comparison, Coruscant have over 1 trillion, i.e. 1.000 billion) Well, I guess I'm more at the lower scale of galactic epic sizes.

 

[UltimateTobi]

Absurdly small? I was more going at absurdly high. Compared to 1 trillion, 100 billion is small, true.
Ah well.

 

[el freako]

For a humans, using an Earth-based 2200 start and working back from expected population in 2200 of between 10 and 12 billion.

I would put a figure of 400 to 500 million using that data.

That would make Earth's maximum population around 200 billion under a max ecumenopolis.
As mentioned this does not scale well - that would equate to a population density of around 400 people per square kilometre - which is around the current population density of the low countries today.

 

[balmung60]

Based on the old tile system, I would have said each pop was actually bigger than the one before it, so the first few pops might be a few thousands (for a species with human-like numbers), but pops after 20 might be multiple billions, but I'm not sure how well that holds up with the higher pop counts in 2.2. Obviously the ramp up would have to be slower, but it's still likely going to result in much larger populations being represented.

 

[Number One]

As far as the Bort Defense League is concerned even if they represent one pop, thats one to many!

 

[Duuk]

I'd argue it depends on the race.

Basically this. A race of solitary mega-giants it might literally represent a family of 4 individuals. A race of rapid breeding arthropod swarms it could be billions.

 

[Gratak]

And here I thought the new pop system was going to finally lay this question to rest...

As many as you think are appropriate for your species.
My rule of thumb is 100 million people per pop.

100 million people works for the pre-ftl ones. Possibly. But in the end, population growth is exponential in real life and linear in Stellaris. Thus you can never give pops an actual population number. And we wouldn't want exponential growth with pops. That would make late game micro hell even worse...

Example: Ecumenopolis:

Substituting all the numbers in gives 657.3 trillion people.

(https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/3yi4ze/request_the_population_of_an_ecumenopolis/)

 

[Spawnof2000]

in my head canon 1 pop = 1 billion people

 

[-Temple-]

An absolute unit

 

[Selvisin]

There are 25 pops (if the one you get by clearing the slums is taken into account) in the World at the beginning of the game. Assuming that the Alberta meteor and whatever happened in Scandinavia and in Mauritania, killed around 100 years worth of population growth, so population estimates for 2100 can be used. Medium estimate is something like 11 billion meaning 1 pop would be 400-500 million humans.

Now the interesting part is that the Commonwealth has exactly the same number of pops. That would mean that their population has grown from 250 000 to 11 billion-ish in around 100 years.

So yeah, best not to think about it too deeply.

 

[dav77-b]

Like 1 billion, 2 billions, 5 billions? I want to know just how many freaky aliens I got in my crazy space empire.

As much as you want to to be

 

[metalosse]

It depends of a thousand things imo.

1 pop in a newly found colony is different from a pop in the capital, that is different from one pop in a pre-ftl civilization, that is different from a pop in stone age.

 

[Tufy]

Like 1 billion, 2 billions, 5 billions?

 

[Scribbit]

So starting on 23rd century Earth with ~20 pops means that we got down to two billion people somehow?

100 million useful people that work for the state, since there's no civilian economic model (except for clerks?) is what I'm going with.

 

[Roddo]

1 billion.