Question about rivals and its effects

[User4035]

So before conquest of paradise when you made someone a rival it reduced the diplomacy points needed to take territories from them by 33%. The current Tool Tip still says this. But when i make someone a rival and then try to take territories it costs 50% per province.

Everytime paradox does a patch it feels like the game just went back to being in beta testing.

So what does rivaling do now? I have to ask it here because the tooltips are wrong.

Does rivaling and then embargoing still work? Does it give extra prestige?

 

[Schmoekoeksklok]

Rivalry still does the exact same things, it just no longer applies to everything in peace costs. The -33% now only applies to making them cede provinces. If you're seeing a 50% reduction my guess is you're looking at returning cores to countries or releasing countries, since the costs for that are now base 25 per province.

So yes, it does still function for embargo's and does still give extra prestige in battles with them. It even still reduces peace costs by 33%, but only if you're taking seperate provinces, not on a full annexation or anything else.

 

[Stategem161803]

The sad thing about the changes to peace deal dip costs for me is that I never used to use dip saving exploits in order to pay less in peace deals. Now the costs are so crazy that I feel like I have to.

Because we all know how much war set countries back in naval technology.