Question about particularists rebels

[tom025]

Hey guys,

I have a question about those particularist rebels ...

Here is my country :

So these annoying peasants decides to pop up out of nowhere when I'm at war with the turks, thats pretty annoying.
I'm asking what is causing their spawn ? Because in several of my games, sometimes for no reason they spawn, maybe you have some tips that can help me to not have them or at least understand why they are spawning.

Here in the screenshot, I had almost 200 K of them ...


PS : It seem in the time I make the screenshot, I had the poland event "royal struggle" that give +10 unrest.

 

[Dominion]

PS : It seem in the time I make the screenshot, I had the poland event "royal struggle" that give +10 unrest.

Having +10 unrest was probably what made them spawn. Wild guess, I know.

And rebel transformation let them pop instantly.

 

[tom025]

So they are only tied to unrest ?

The thing is, I have no screenshot to provide but in some other games I had "particularists" spawn for no reason.

Anyway they are stupid I'm just trying to make them live in peace and have more space to extend their homes !

 

[Dominion]

No. Unrest transformed them from whatever they were before into Particularists. If any of these former groups disappear completely (not present in any province) they transform their progress into the particularist's progress.

Say you have 40% religious, 20% ukrainian separatists, 30% Muscovite separatists and 10% peasants. If all of those lose all their provinces to particularists you now have 100% particularist progress and they pop instantly.

 

[Legionary Guard]

I had "particularists" spawn for no reason.

I've always held that they're called "Particularists" because they rebel over nothing in particular.

 

[tom025]

No. Unrest transformed them from whatever they were before into Particularists. If any of these former groups disappear completely (not present in any province) they transform their progress into the particularist's progress.

Say you have 40% religious, 20% ukrainian separatists, 30% Muscovite separatists and 10% peasants. If all of those lose all their provinces to particularists you now have 100% particularist progress and they pop instantly.

ok i didnt know ... Thanks man !

 

[CplKatie]

You've got some serious unrest management going on there. Are you by chance lowering your autonomy on provinces? I see alot of rebel types I usually only see when that happens. You should not lower unless you feel like burning manpower on rebellions. Its much better to get lowering autonomy modifiers and let it happen over time. Particularists I believe are the preferred rebel type when you anger merchants guild/burgers.

Raise your stability to 3, raise your legitimacy to atleast 75. Are you in a crisis? I ask cause you got the telltale signs for one with that much rebels and peasants on your faction list. Whats your overextension and how many unstated cores are there?

 

[SolSys]

A bit outdated, but should still be useful: http://www.eu4wiki.com/Rebellion#Rebel_factions

 

[kentun]

War Exhaustion?

 

[tom025]

You've got some serious unrest management going on there. Are you by chance lowering your autonomy on provinces? I see alot of rebel types I usually only see when that happens. You should not lower unless you feel like burning manpower on rebellions. Its much better to get lowering autonomy modifiers and let it happen over time. Particularists I believe are the preferred rebel type when you anger merchants guild/burgers.

Raise your stability to 3, raise your legitimacy to atleast 75. Are you in a crisis? I ask cause you got the telltale signs for one with that much rebels and peasants on your faction list. Whats your overextension and how many unstated cores are there?

- I never lower the autonomy on provinces, its not worthing it (+10 unrest is too much)

- Yeah I got a king with average claim so thats why I had a shitty legitimacy but the legitimacy in itself is not a big problem I guess

- I think as said in the first post, I had the event "royal struggle" to get rid of the sejm, it gives me +10 unrest, I was sitting around + 8 unrest in total I believe.

- Except my shitty king / legitimacy, some estate problems (they loyalty was about 30) evrything is fine except that. No overextension or War exaustion. Was just helping my buddy killings the turks