Question about OPFORs

[Hypnotist]

Please correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Campaign mission OPFORs are static
2. Procgen mission OPFORs are random (from lists)
3. Flashpoint mission OPFORs are random (from different lists)

 

[mjbroekman]

Please correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Campaign mission OPFORs are static
2. Procgen mission OPFORs are random (from lists)
3. Flashpoint mission OPFORs are random (from different lists)

Yes but... Flashpoint OPFORs can be either random or static depending on how the author wrote them.

 

[Hypnotist]

Yes but... Flashpoint OPFORs can be either random or static depending on how the author wrote them.

Bugger! Has anyone figured out which is which yet or did another line item get added to my flashpoint investigations?

 

[mjbroekman]

I'm not sure anyone is really tracking it.

 

[Amechwarrior]

It could also be mixed, where a FP defined one unit and let's the remaining 3 be procgen. I don't have a list of which FPs do what kind of OPFOR spawning.

 

[Hypnotist]

I'll start tracking it. Just finished a note-taking campaign and have just started the first FP. I'll let you know what I find.

 

[Donvale]

It could also be mixed, where a FP defined one unit and let's the remaining 3 be procgen. I don't have a list of which FPs do what kind of OPFOR spawning.

Just for the sake of ease of creation I imagine this is normal.
Why get all complicated creating specific opfors for filler missions, on the flip side you always want the special fights to be exactly that, so they need hand crafted enemies!

 

[Rubidium]

The FP with the Hatchetman is particularly notorious for its random spawns:
Back before they put in the requirement that that FP had to be completed for Hatchetmen to spawn, it was quite common to see the OPFOR that was supposedly threatening your experimental, brand-new, top-secret Hatchetman cargo include...a Hatchetman.

 

[Hypnotist]

The FP with the Hatchetman is particularly notorious for its random spawns:
Back before they put in the requirement that that FP had to be completed for Hatchetmen to spawn, it was quite common to see the OPFOR in the force that was supposedly threatening your experimental, brand-new, top-secret Hatchetman cargo include...a Hatchetman.

I had that happen too. I also remember the first time i ran through Prototype right after UW release, the OPFOR had 2 Ravens. I initially thought that it was intentional and that was how you acquired it, but no just a developer mistake.

FTR, Prototype uses variable OPFORs. *edit* I also just realized that the maxium cash payouts for the Prototype missions appear to also be variable.

 

[Kereminde]

The FP with the Hatchetman is particularly notorious for its random spawns:
Back before they put in the requirement that that FP had to be completed for Hatchetmen to spawn, it was quite common to see the OPFOR that was supposedly threatening your experimental, brand-new, top-secret Hatchetman cargo include...a Hatchetman.

It was actually kind of a guarantee; every run at that FP I took had the OpFor fielding one. Probably due to the procgen constraints.

 

[JuicedGoose]

My understanding is the OpFor selection can be a mix of the three. The "FPNAME_#_missiontype" jsons & txt files declare the specific vehicle/Mech(s) involved, or the tags, spawn effects, and difficulty adjustments used to generate OpFor. Mixed declared & generated can occur in a single lance. The txt files are much easier to read. Look for the "[Team]targetTeam" section.

For example, in the FP "A House Divided"...

Spoiler

the game spawns the matriarch's Grasshopper & 3 generated but named mechs as employer team (Ally) if you Decide with her. The OpFor in this mission has a lance with two declared mechs & the other two are generated.

If you Decide with the daughter, the matriarch's Grasshopper & her named generated buddies are on the target team (OpFor).

Red Hunt I uses declared OpFor Mech lances. Red Hunt II uses a declared Ally Mech lance & generated OpFor.

*edit* I also just realized that the maxium cash payouts for the Prototype missions appear to also be variable.

I'm guessing CBill payout might be based off of the "salvage potential" ("difficulty" - contract price per difficulty + other modifiers) mission setting. I don't have a way to determine if that is correct or not.

 

[Hypnotist]

My understanding is the OpFor selection can be a mix of the three...

Well that throws a wrench into the works! LOL

 

[JuicedGoose]

*edit* I also just realized that the maxium cash payouts for the Prototype missions appear to also be variable.

Well that throws a wrench into the works! LOL

Haha! If you haven't already, check out Amechwarrior's Flashpoint Authors Guide: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/flashpoint-authors-guide.1153590/ Many of the details are outlined there.



Also, regarding payouts...

Spoiler

From the "BattleTech_Data\StreamingAssets\data\simGameConstants\SimGameConstants.json" file.

"ContractPricePerDifficulty" : 180000,
"ContractTypeMod_AmbushConvoy" : 0.8,
"ContractTypeMod_Assassinate" : 0.8,
"ContractTypeMod_CaptureBase" : 1.0,
"ContractTypeMod_CaptureEscort" : 1.2,
"ContractTypeMod_DefendBase" : 1.2,
"ContractTypeMod_DestroyBase" : 0.8,
"ContractTypeMod_Rescue" : 0.4,
"ContractTypeMod_SimpleBattle" : 1.0,
"ContractTypeMod_AttackDefend" : 1.2,
"ContractTypeMod_ThreeWayBattle" : 1.4,
"ContractPriceVariance" : 0.15,
"ContractFloorSalaryMultiplier" : 0.1,