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Trithemius

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The Romulans are a Star Empire in Star Trek. Though its actually more an oligarchy of some sort I think
The Romulan Star Empire is probably sometime a Military Junta*, sometimes a Military Dictatorship*, sometimes a Despotic Empire* - depending.

* or the advanced forms I suppose?
 

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I find it a bit sad that there is one choice for evolution of your government; it would be cool (if taxing to design!) branching advanced forms.
 
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I find it a bit sad that there is one choice for evolution of your government; it would be cool (if taxing to design!) branching advanced forms.
I don't think it's really fair to complain about this.
You can change your government whenever you want, for whatever reason you want. Just annexed a bunch of unruly pops? Change your government to a more ethically convergent one, and say "The government has evolved its form to meet the demands of ruling a diverse population". Rival empire on your borders getting uppity? Change to military republic, "The government has evolved to meet the challenge of SmugSlug aggression".
It's not Paradox's fault that you don't have enough imagination to RP a little.
 
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The Romulan Star Empire is probably sometime a Military Junta*, sometimes a Military Dictatorship*, sometimes a Despotic Empire* - depending.
But with the trappings of the Roman Republic. The senators exist and do have power in the government, even though some of them die horribly due to politics.
 
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I don't think it's really fair to complain about this.
You can change your government whenever you want, for whatever reason you want. Just annexed a bunch of unruly pops? Change your government to a more ethically convergent one, and say "The government has evolved its form to meet the demands of ruling a diverse population". Rival empire on your borders getting uppity? Change to military republic, "The government has evolved to meet the challenge of SmugSlug aggression".
It's not Paradox's fault that you don't have enough imagination to RP a little.
I think that Trithemius said that it's a pity that there is no branching evolution of the government form. He didn't say that he wants to be able to change government forms whenever he wishes into whatever he wants.
 
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I think that Trithemius said that it's a pity that there is no branching evolution of the government form. He didn't say that he wants to be able to change government forms whenever he wishes into whatever he wants.
My point was that there IS branching evolution of government form.
You have 15 to choose from and 15 more on Galactic Admin. You "evolve" whenever you want, in whichever one of 29 branches you want.
 
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Ok, and does anyone know the answer to my question?
Can I change my government form or ethos mid-game?

I think it can change if you have ethos divergence in your pops and the faction they form becomes the ruling one. For example in the blorg stream they had pops who were pacifists and were rebellious.
 

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I don't think it's really fair to complain about this.
You can change your government whenever you want, for whatever reason you want. Just annexed a bunch of unruly pops? Change your government to a more ethically convergent one, and say "The government has evolved its form to meet the demands of ruling a diverse population". Rival empire on your borders getting uppity? Change to military republic, "The government has evolved to meet the challenge of SmugSlug aggression".
It's not Paradox's fault that you don't have enough imagination to RP a little.

I literally do not understand this reply, sorry!
Did I miss some intel about the ability to comprehensively change your (a) Government, and (b) Ethics? If I have that might explain why I am baffled.

I was thinking that many of the [basic] governments could evolve into interpretations that emphasize one of the constituent parts more, or which involve ethics choices that are not used to enable/disable the [basic] governments. My interest in this is due to my interest in allowing (gradual) acces to more varied sci fi elements - rather than maximising gameplay advantage.


(For the record: I helped run a six hour, sixty player, Star Trek LARP so I don't need nobody dissing my sci fi RP cred. *adjusts Romulan bowlcut wig* )
 

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But with the trappings of the Roman Republic. The senators exist and do have power in the government, even though some of them die horribly due to politics.

The Roman Republic could easily replace Romulan Star Empire in my previous post. ;)
Romulan politics definitely oscillates between autocracy and oligarchy while preserving the nomenclature of a hybrid (Roman-ish) system. Arguably it even goes a bit Despotic Hegemony if you consider the time of maximum Tal Shiar influence. Even more so if you get into the ST:O plotline.
 
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My point was that there IS branching evolution of government form.
You have 15 to choose from and 15 more on Galactic Admin. You "evolve" whenever you want, in whichever one of 29 branches you want.
I think that you are mistaken, there is evolution but it's linear not branching X-->--Y e.g. indirect democracy -->-- democratic utopia, plutocratic oligarchy -->-- mega corporation
Branching evolution would look like this:

/--------------------------------------- Y​
X---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\--------------------------------------- Z​
Anyway I like the fact that we can upgrade our administration, I just hope that this game will sell well enough to deserve the same amount of love from devs as EU IV or Victoria II
And we will see cool expansions expanding the mechanics we get now, such as government forms.
 
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