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Hi, I don't know how others felt, but for me generals were a huge part of game in HOI3. Mostly I felt that I had way too few leaders, and I also hoped that my leaders would improve more during long campaigns. I know that is part of strategy to know how to use your generals most efficiently, but still... So in the next HOI, can we create random leaders, or even better, maybe set up military academy to pump out leaders that we need. If I'm putting all my resources to tanks, I hope that cadets in my academies are specializing in tank warfare too. So my question is, do we still have historical leaders, and/or can we create random leaders who maybe someday develop enough and can go toe-to-toe with Rommel himself?
 

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There will be both historical and "random" generals. We are not doing division level leaders and there will be more focus on shaping and leveling the guys you have
 

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There will be both historical and "random" generals. We are not doing division level leaders and there will be more focus on shaping and leveling the guys you have
Why random Generals if they are not going to be needed at division level? I can´t say I am pleased to hear this but regardless it does not compute.

Edit: I hope I am wrong but I think I can already see where this is going :/
 
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Why random Generals if they are going to be needed at division level? I can´t say I am pleased to hear this but regardless it does not compute.

It seems like it means there will be a limited number of generals for each nation and some random generals that might allow smaller nations to field more forces led by generals, and perhaps have generals with 'random' abilities show up earlier than the old historical lists would allow.
 

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There will be both historical and "random" generals. We are not doing division level leaders and there will be more focus on shaping and leveling the guys you have
Random leader generator? Finally.

Great to hear about the lack of division generals. They are unnecessary. Fewer leader slots but with more impact - that's my preference.
 
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There will be both historical and "random" generals. We are not doing division level leaders and there will be more focus on shaping and leveling the guys you have
Those that mean your getting rid of the leaders photographs?
 

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Random leader generator? Finally.

Great to hear about the lack of division generals. They are unnecessary. Fewer leader slots but with more impact - that's my preference.

Yeah I am pretty sure they were not needed in the real WWII too! These are terrible news because this can only mean that the game is going to be dumbed down big time! :(
 

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Random leader generator? Finally.

Great to hear about the lack of division generals. They are unnecessary. Fewer leader slots but with more impact - that's my preference.

On top of that reduces time wasted adding a proper leader to the million divisions you have. It should also be easier for AI to assign correct leaders.
 

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It should also be easier for AI to assign correct leaders.
Did you know that leaders can be auto-assigned without any human intevention whatsoever so no time wasted? You only need to pay attention to it if you run-out of leaders, with much more leaders only the people willing to micromanage them would "waste" time.

It should also be easier for AI to assign correct leaders.

Bingo! Instead of teaching the AI how to use them properly they apparently decided to cut some corners and get rid of the feature. That is also very helpful because they won´t need to accurate research the leaders of that timeframe so the ones already in-game will suffice. :(
 

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Yeah I am pretty sure they were not needed in the real WWII too! These are terrible news because this can only mean that the game is going to be dumbed down big time! :(
How is it dumbed down? Divisional generals where trivial, as far as the game mechanics are concerned.
 

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Random leader generator? Finally.

AHHHHH . . . . . that sound you hear is the sound of relief after asking for this feature since HOI1 - 12 YEARS AGO.

@Podcat - can you confirm that there will be some kind of random-leader generation in the game?
 

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There will be both historical and "random" generals. We are not doing division level leaders and there will be more focus on shaping and leveling the guys you have

Does this have the intention of trying to bring the RP elements of CK2 and to a lesser extent EU4 Monarch RP to HOI4?
 

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I guess I understand this from a gamist persepctive, but it sucks for immersion.

Not really. You didn't see a Multi-continent spanning empire leave it's armies without commanders because they could find nobody to lead them.

(Unless you're talking about no division leaders)
 

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Not really. You didn't see a Multi-continent spanning empire leave it's armies without commanders because they could find nobody to lead them.

(Unless you're talking about no division leaders)

I was referring to the lack of division generals...it sucks, though I understand it will be "streamlined". I dislike it due to not having that level of detail.