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admiral drake said:
Lol, French bankrupcy isnt even related to gold!
Rofl, if sending cash from ghosted nations to others isnt gamey, then giving provinces with gold to others isnt either.
And come to think of it - Austria got all the income these years so i dont see the problem on it.
BurningEGO said:
first thats none of your affairs since you quit the game ego
however i think its unfair for others to keep there bancrupty if spanish are deleted
secund i wasn't exactly ghosting remember that, ghosted sweden would have been way worse then me subbing it, besides you quit before you even knew i send gold to kj
third i agree with and got no issue with spain giving away provs to avoid inflation
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martmol said:ontime: deflation
core on TIMBUKTU and that other one i forgot
prov id or ill "forget" again
ENgland AAR 1598-1630
I'd made a deal with the king of Sweden, and was therefore free to focus on Spain. I went through the economic routine the first eight years, as I still had a NAP with Spain, finished with some AI, expanded trade quite a bit. Then sent an ultimatum, demanding either a large sum of money or a cot, plus 50 concubines. He demanded I pay 1000D for the concubines, so it was war.
I won it as a clean victory, with few losses, taking Ganges + two Indian colonies. The second war was equally brilliant, opened with a major naval victory, and followed up with a slow buildup of warscore and the final invasion of Holland, with the defeat of his main fleet and destruction of the Spanish army under Spinola.
I was feeling pretty good about England's warmaking power. I thought it'd be neat to take on Brandenburg, but didn't think deeply about it, and ignored the obvious obstacles of such a campaign, his new medium forts primarily, along with my lower tech and lack of manpower. The war went as one could have predicted. With no super leaders, I couldn't assault his forts so long as his army remained a force, and didn't have the numbers to simply swamp him, so while I won a few battles, the general direction of the war was unfavorable. I failed to destroy his army, and eventually lost both my leaders to random or historical deaths, and he then occupied Holland. As my WE was getting too high to continue recruitment, I let it go, hoping he'd get tired of it and give up.
Since the truce with Spain was soon to expire, my attention turned to him. I thought he was sure to intervene, so I took the initiative and dow'd him, once more making dramatic progress in India and then mounting a successful invasion of Mexico. However, the drama of this success was dwarfed when France joined months later, adding a mighty new fleet, enough to overtake and destroy most of my home fleet, allowing an invasion of England itself. France also attempted to take my Indian colonies as well, but my warship fleet intercepted his galleys and handily routed them, pursued them all the way to Singapore, where only about 60 ships of 360 remained.
The invasion of England could not have worked had I had any generals. As it was, my armies were unable to seriously contend with Spinola, generally outnumbered as they were, and were poorly positioned to fight the Brandenburgers who soon landed in the north. I couldn't maneuver quickly enough to handle them all. The colonies saved me, at least temporarily, as I captured much of Mexico and Goa in India. Battle warscore from these engagements helped a lot. Brandenburg peaced out for the lowlands, and once my colonial fleets arrived in Europe, the coalition navies were defeated, and their armies forced out. But they brought more ships and had me outmatched again when my last admiral died, and began landing more. Fairfax spawned, giving me something to work with, but Turrene did as well, in England itself after two incredibly huge armies landed ashore, numbering about 130k in all. It was a very expensive session. Over all it would appear to have been a good one, but this war's losses have not all been tallied yet.
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I'd made a deal with the king of Sweden, and was therefore free to focus on Spain. I went through the economic routine the first eight years, as I still had a NAP with Spain, finished with some AI, expanded trade quite a bit. Then sent an ultimatum, demanding either a large sum of money or a cot, plus 50 concubines. He demanded I pay 1000D for the concubines, so it was war.
I won it as a clean victory, with few losses, taking Ganges + two Indian colonies. The second war was equally brilliant, opened with a major naval victory, and followed up with a slow buildup of warscore and the final invasion of Holland, with the defeat of his main fleet and destruction of the Spanish army under Spinola.
I was feeling pretty good about England's warmaking power. I thought it'd be neat to take on Brandenburg, but didn't think deeply about it, and ignored the obvious obstacles of such a campaign, his new medium forts primarily, along with my lower tech and lack of manpower. The war went as one could have predicted. With no super leaders, I couldn't assault his forts so long as his army remained a force, and didn't have the numbers to simply swamp him, so while I won a few battles, the general direction of the war was unfavorable. I failed to destroy his army, and eventually lost both my leaders to random or historical deaths, and he then occupied Holland. As my WE was getting too high to continue recruitment, I let it go, hoping he'd get tired of it and give up.
Since the truce with Spain was soon to expire, my attention turned to him. I thought he was sure to intervene, so I took the initiative and dow'd him, once more making dramatic progress in India and then mounting a successful invasion of Mexico. However, the drama of this success was dwarfed when France joined months later, adding a mighty new fleet, enough to overtake and destroy most of my home fleet, allowing an invasion of England itself. France also attempted to take my Indian colonies as well, but my warship fleet intercepted his galleys and handily routed them, pursued them all the way to Singapore, where only about 60 ships of 360 remained.
The invasion of England could not have worked had I had any generals. As it was, my armies were unable to seriously contend with Spinola, generally outnumbered as they were, and were poorly positioned to fight the Brandenburgers who soon landed in the north. I couldn't maneuver quickly enough to handle them all. The colonies saved me, at least temporarily, as I captured much of Mexico and Goa in India. Battle warscore from these engagements helped a lot. Brandenburg peaced out for the lowlands, and once my colonial fleets arrived in Europe, the coalition navies were defeated, and their armies forced out. But they brought more ships and had me outmatched again when my last admiral died, and began landing more. Fairfax spawned, giving me something to work with, but Turrene did as well, in England itself after two incredibly huge armies landed ashore, numbering about 130k in all. It was a very expensive session. Over all it would appear to have been a good one, but this war's losses have not all been tallied yet.
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My house of state had become infested with the hordes of France and Spain, and its structure was being eaten out like there was a colony of termites. Steadily they spread from province to province, consuming everything as they went. The only hope was to call the exterminator.
So I called Gustav Adolphus's number:
"hey, I need some help. Can I get some Swedes to come over and clean out England?"
"Sure, but you need to schedule an appointment. It takes a while to prepare. How does 1633 sound?"
"1633? What do you expect me to do until then? It's infested with frogs over here. They're making a huge mess"
"Ok, I can push it to half a year. How big is this frog problem of yours?"
"Gigantic. They're covering almost half of England. They've raised frog flags in every city south of Yorkshire, including London, and there's more coming. I need you to bring every weapon you've got".
"I can bring 400 warships and 60k cav, plus about 90k inf. I can do it for 7000 ducats".
"Whaaat? That's ridiculous. I can give you 5000. Anything more would be exhorbitant".
"I can settle for 6000".
"Fine. You'll be here in six months then?"
"Yep, try cooking some frog legs in the meantime, it makes a good soup".
So I made due with the situation for six months, cooked some Frenchmen and Spaniards, lost a little bit of ground but not too much. Checked my clock, went to seven months, then eight, so I called Gustav again and was like,
"Hey, where the heck are you?"
"I'll be there, don't worry. It just takes longer than I thought to get all this equipment together. Just relax".
"Pchah!", and I slammed the phone down. Another three months went by before the Swedes finally showed up and went to work. It was getting close, Spain had begun stabhitting me. Things started to go our way now finally though.
The plan had been to trap Turrene in England, and then use him to blackmail France into signing a seperate peace.
What happened was we killed most of the frogs and had Turrene on the run, retreating to southern England where he no doubt hoped to board the French fleet. Our navies intercepted the Franco-Spanish navy and initially did well, outteching them and outnumbering them, particularly in warships, but then the battle went sour. Random luck. I started frantically splitting my fleet to re-engage the French, preventing Turrene from escaping, but to no avail. My 5-6 attempts were too early, and then Turrene arrived nice and safe.
So, it being somewhat even, and highly unprofitable to pursue the war further, I accepted an overall WP. Quite short of the cot or two I hoped to get from Spain after forcing out the French, but at least England was cleansed.
I only paid Gustav 4 of the 6k. Couldn't pay him in full after arriving so late, and then failing to achieve one of the main objectives, but it was still a good profit for him. You could say it was bittersweet for both of us.
Now that England was free, I wanted to do the things that make freedom worth having. Rebuild England's life and start anew, maybe invade Spain again. The economy blossomed, when income rose to a sufficient level, I paid back Sweden. Then I signed a NAP with France for 25 years, and used it to fight Spain. Took Goa and Sri Lanka from him, after a long struggle.
I signed a NAP with Spain, on his request, as part of our peace, but it left me without an obvious course for the rest of the session. Who to DOW? That was the question. Everything else was straightforward: trade, colonization, things I could do in my sleep, but war is always complicated. I'd had good relations with just about everyone else. Even the French, despite their latent invasion of England.
On the other hand, loner that I am, I was pretty sure I didn't need any of them. Drake dared me to try to sack Paris, and said he'd give me Frisia if I pulled it off. Big mistake, you should never dare me to sack your capital.
Came out of that war with Frisia in my hands, and then figured I should DOW Sweden. If I wasn't going to do it now, when would I? If you're gonna do something, it's best not to procrastinate, and that's what I'd been doing the past 30 years. It was time to go forward.
Cromwell's task force sailed into the sund and beat the Swedish fleet in a very decisive battle, then conquered Denmark. They came back and forced the fleet out, but with reinforcements and Monck in command, the English fleet returned and finished off the rest of the Swede ships. Gustav the exterminator had long been deceased, there wasn't anybody bad ass enough to stop Cromwell, who then landed in Stockholm and sacked the city. This done, it was clear to Sweden that resistence was futile, and that terms had to be accepted. For Jutland and Sleswig. I gave him 2kD to relieve the suffering of all the widows of the war, and then sailed back home
Who knows what adventures lie in wait for Cromwell and myself in general. There are so many places to go. Brandenburg is the closest though, methinks it time to remove the smear of losing the low countries to them not so long ago.
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So I called Gustav Adolphus's number:
"hey, I need some help. Can I get some Swedes to come over and clean out England?"
"Sure, but you need to schedule an appointment. It takes a while to prepare. How does 1633 sound?"
"1633? What do you expect me to do until then? It's infested with frogs over here. They're making a huge mess"
"Ok, I can push it to half a year. How big is this frog problem of yours?"
"Gigantic. They're covering almost half of England. They've raised frog flags in every city south of Yorkshire, including London, and there's more coming. I need you to bring every weapon you've got".
"I can bring 400 warships and 60k cav, plus about 90k inf. I can do it for 7000 ducats".
"Whaaat? That's ridiculous. I can give you 5000. Anything more would be exhorbitant".
"I can settle for 6000".
"Fine. You'll be here in six months then?"
"Yep, try cooking some frog legs in the meantime, it makes a good soup".
So I made due with the situation for six months, cooked some Frenchmen and Spaniards, lost a little bit of ground but not too much. Checked my clock, went to seven months, then eight, so I called Gustav again and was like,
"Hey, where the heck are you?"
"I'll be there, don't worry. It just takes longer than I thought to get all this equipment together. Just relax".
"Pchah!", and I slammed the phone down. Another three months went by before the Swedes finally showed up and went to work. It was getting close, Spain had begun stabhitting me. Things started to go our way now finally though.
The plan had been to trap Turrene in England, and then use him to blackmail France into signing a seperate peace.
What happened was we killed most of the frogs and had Turrene on the run, retreating to southern England where he no doubt hoped to board the French fleet. Our navies intercepted the Franco-Spanish navy and initially did well, outteching them and outnumbering them, particularly in warships, but then the battle went sour. Random luck. I started frantically splitting my fleet to re-engage the French, preventing Turrene from escaping, but to no avail. My 5-6 attempts were too early, and then Turrene arrived nice and safe.
So, it being somewhat even, and highly unprofitable to pursue the war further, I accepted an overall WP. Quite short of the cot or two I hoped to get from Spain after forcing out the French, but at least England was cleansed.
I only paid Gustav 4 of the 6k. Couldn't pay him in full after arriving so late, and then failing to achieve one of the main objectives, but it was still a good profit for him. You could say it was bittersweet for both of us.
Now that England was free, I wanted to do the things that make freedom worth having. Rebuild England's life and start anew, maybe invade Spain again. The economy blossomed, when income rose to a sufficient level, I paid back Sweden. Then I signed a NAP with France for 25 years, and used it to fight Spain. Took Goa and Sri Lanka from him, after a long struggle.
I signed a NAP with Spain, on his request, as part of our peace, but it left me without an obvious course for the rest of the session. Who to DOW? That was the question. Everything else was straightforward: trade, colonization, things I could do in my sleep, but war is always complicated. I'd had good relations with just about everyone else. Even the French, despite their latent invasion of England.
On the other hand, loner that I am, I was pretty sure I didn't need any of them. Drake dared me to try to sack Paris, and said he'd give me Frisia if I pulled it off. Big mistake, you should never dare me to sack your capital.
Came out of that war with Frisia in my hands, and then figured I should DOW Sweden. If I wasn't going to do it now, when would I? If you're gonna do something, it's best not to procrastinate, and that's what I'd been doing the past 30 years. It was time to go forward.
Cromwell's task force sailed into the sund and beat the Swedish fleet in a very decisive battle, then conquered Denmark. They came back and forced the fleet out, but with reinforcements and Monck in command, the English fleet returned and finished off the rest of the Swede ships. Gustav the exterminator had long been deceased, there wasn't anybody bad ass enough to stop Cromwell, who then landed in Stockholm and sacked the city. This done, it was clear to Sweden that resistence was futile, and that terms had to be accepted. For Jutland and Sleswig. I gave him 2kD to relieve the suffering of all the widows of the war, and then sailed back home
Who knows what adventures lie in wait for Cromwell and myself in general. There are so many places to go. Brandenburg is the closest though, methinks it time to remove the smear of losing the low countries to them not so long ago.
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Cromwell thought he was going to eat some Brandenburgers, but they were intimidated into giving back the low countries without a fight. England is almost always happy to accommodate nations with peace in exchange for a fair price, but I also signed a NAP with Brand for the rest of the session, leaving me with a boring few years. What to do?
The OE was suddenly DOW'd by Spain, AUstria and Russia. I told him I'd help him out with Russia and Austria in exchange for Queshm. He waffled at first, but soon agreed in the face of the fierce onslaught, so Cromwell and about 200,000 soldiers sailed into the black sea for action against the Russians.
It was pretty easy pickings. The Russians were beaten fairly easy, anywhere I deployed my army, but I couldn't be all over at once, and could not reverse the Russian advance fast enough for the OE to free itself of stabhits. I killed two Russian armies with leaders in them, and liberated Crimea. Briefly conquered jedison and the prov north, and was about to begin liberating the area north of Georgia when the OE caved in to their demands.
I hadn't lost more than 60,000 men or so, maybe 70k tops, and mostly to attrition. I had reinforcements coming as well. With another year, I think the Russian front would've been completely relieved, and I could have concentrated on driving the Austrians back.
Since the OE ended up losing, I didn't have the heart to insist on Queshm. I settled for monopoly privileges in 2-3 of his cots for the next 50 years.
Then, when the NAP with Spain expired in 71, a decade later, I DOW'd them. I had a 20 percent advantage in ships, and a pretty good leader in Prince Rupert, so defeating Spain was no biggie. I had major superiority in India, and was able to take Guangzou. Progress in NA was slower, but progress nonetheless. The last two Dutch provs were taken, and then the main operation went forward. The general Prince Rupert was landed in Portugal with 110k, and a random general(343 modified) landed in the south Portuguese prov. Both defeated Spanish relief forces sent against them and then moved forward. A 20k force took Gibralter, then the whole southern command attacked Andulacia and ultimately took it, while Prince Rupert fought a successful campaign in the north that eventually brought him to the outskirts of Madrid, at which point the Spaniards peaced for the Dutch provs, Gibralter, and two Indian provs.
The rest of the session was uneventful. I got 12 percent in deflations overall, before and one after this war, so that was very nice. I minted almost the entire session. Built eight refineries, but that was before this last war. I increased naval support from 1080 to about 1380, and MP from 80 to about 120, partially from DP clicks toward land. Income is looking very good. Almost as high as Spain, but with half the inflation. With another historical 5 percent deflation on the way, that aspect is not looking like a serious problem, although it could get out of hand in a hurry if I need to continue minting at this pace, which I shouldn't. I don't plan to build anymore refineries. Those cost me about 45k. The wars in total only cost 30k. The 700 or so remaining new vessels I created must've cost another 30k. I don't think I will need to build many more to maintain a fleet of about 1400 vessels. Spain's current navy is grossly inferior, and France's navy's about as bad. I will get a chance to destroy one or the other's fleet without fear of interference from the other as well, due to SPain's current truce, and the possibility of a NAP with either one.
All in all, England is in a good state. There are no serious threats to its wooden walls, and the army has never been stronger. Colonially it is ostensibly unbeatable. On the continent, it is fastest growing power. The sun doesn't set on the British Empire, but it hasn't finished its rise either.
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The OE was suddenly DOW'd by Spain, AUstria and Russia. I told him I'd help him out with Russia and Austria in exchange for Queshm. He waffled at first, but soon agreed in the face of the fierce onslaught, so Cromwell and about 200,000 soldiers sailed into the black sea for action against the Russians.
It was pretty easy pickings. The Russians were beaten fairly easy, anywhere I deployed my army, but I couldn't be all over at once, and could not reverse the Russian advance fast enough for the OE to free itself of stabhits. I killed two Russian armies with leaders in them, and liberated Crimea. Briefly conquered jedison and the prov north, and was about to begin liberating the area north of Georgia when the OE caved in to their demands.
I hadn't lost more than 60,000 men or so, maybe 70k tops, and mostly to attrition. I had reinforcements coming as well. With another year, I think the Russian front would've been completely relieved, and I could have concentrated on driving the Austrians back.
Since the OE ended up losing, I didn't have the heart to insist on Queshm. I settled for monopoly privileges in 2-3 of his cots for the next 50 years.
Then, when the NAP with Spain expired in 71, a decade later, I DOW'd them. I had a 20 percent advantage in ships, and a pretty good leader in Prince Rupert, so defeating Spain was no biggie. I had major superiority in India, and was able to take Guangzou. Progress in NA was slower, but progress nonetheless. The last two Dutch provs were taken, and then the main operation went forward. The general Prince Rupert was landed in Portugal with 110k, and a random general(343 modified) landed in the south Portuguese prov. Both defeated Spanish relief forces sent against them and then moved forward. A 20k force took Gibralter, then the whole southern command attacked Andulacia and ultimately took it, while Prince Rupert fought a successful campaign in the north that eventually brought him to the outskirts of Madrid, at which point the Spaniards peaced for the Dutch provs, Gibralter, and two Indian provs.
The rest of the session was uneventful. I got 12 percent in deflations overall, before and one after this war, so that was very nice. I minted almost the entire session. Built eight refineries, but that was before this last war. I increased naval support from 1080 to about 1380, and MP from 80 to about 120, partially from DP clicks toward land. Income is looking very good. Almost as high as Spain, but with half the inflation. With another historical 5 percent deflation on the way, that aspect is not looking like a serious problem, although it could get out of hand in a hurry if I need to continue minting at this pace, which I shouldn't. I don't plan to build anymore refineries. Those cost me about 45k. The wars in total only cost 30k. The 700 or so remaining new vessels I created must've cost another 30k. I don't think I will need to build many more to maintain a fleet of about 1400 vessels. Spain's current navy is grossly inferior, and France's navy's about as bad. I will get a chance to destroy one or the other's fleet without fear of interference from the other as well, due to SPain's current truce, and the possibility of a NAP with either one.
All in all, England is in a good state. There are no serious threats to its wooden walls, and the army has never been stronger. Colonially it is ostensibly unbeatable. On the continent, it is fastest growing power. The sun doesn't set on the British Empire, but it hasn't finished its rise either.
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Austria (1652-1677)
Austria´s longterm intention had always been to liberate all slavonic provinces from ottoman rule. This had been my plan from the very beginning of my regency. Many wars had been fought and the Sultan time and again defeated in battle or outmanouvered diplomaticaly.
In the year 1652 alas Austria was unsure how to continue its march toward glory. To the south lay the tattered and humbled remains of the once glorious Ottoman Empire. I did not really wish to war it yet again - it seemed too cruel to amputate it some more when at the same time other powers were at its troath as well. Then again all negotiations for the sale of the last 3 slavonic provinces had been unfruitful and so there was no real alternative. Originaly I had intended to wait some years, build up my economy and then strike the OE with a final blow. With a new Regent in Russia, however, things soon picked up pace. He approached me and requested a concerted action against the Turk. At the same time the good King of Spain likewise urged me to engage in this operation. So I felt compelled to adhere my allies request and henceforth prepared Austria´s army for war.
At this point it must be said that I never sent even more than 40 % of Austria´s army against the Turk and limited my operations to the immediate borderprovinces plus those I wanted to acquire. All the same Austria´s army at this point the strongest in Europe and still growing stronger simply made mincemeat of the Turk. Rumelia and Macedonia, two key provinces in which the Ottoman was engaged in constructing fortifications, were overrun in the opening month thus nullifying the fortification effort. From there on General Montecuccoli moved southwards thrashing ottoman detachments left right and center - it quickly became a massacre to such gruesome extent that the ottoman simply retreated his troops to Constantinople - where austrian soldiers never set foot as our goals were limited.
So effectively the austrian theater of the war was over in less than a year and I started to comfortably stabhit the OE while withdrawing my troops back to austrian lands.
Some halfhearted ottoman counteroffensives were beaten back, of course, but nothing serious really.
So having finished my work I observed with interest the progress the Czar was making to my north. I must say....I was astonished by his tactics.
For some reason he besieged almost all forts in the Crimean etc. even though they were for the most part minimal and hence easy pickings for assaults - this weird strategy was to backfire badly in the next russo-ottoman war.
Even so the ottoman was crushed and on the verge of breakdown. English intervention turned the tables for a while and I even considered sending an expeditionary force to Russia to combat the Britishers - the only foe, it would seem, worthy of a decent fight. It never came to that, however, as the Sultan, having to contend with a simultaneous spanish attack, simply caved in to our demands. So Russia gained Astrakhan, Saria and another province in the eastern wilderness while I seized the final slavonic provinces, Dobrudja, Varna & Rumelia.
Furthermore after a good year´s fighting the OE was then also forced to cede Egypt to Spain - thus losing all manpower from its african possessions. It seems the Turk has now really been tamed and reduced to papertiger-status.
After that I stayed at peace and built up Austria´s economic assets. I also embarked upon an ambitious fortification effort which is nowhere near complete and will make future aggressions against the Habsburg Empire a most dangerous affair indeed. I also learned from the Sultan that the Margrave of Brandenburg had been heavily funding him during his war against Austria - an outrageous act of treachery for any realm calling itself "christian". This vile action is as yet unresolved and has severely strained austro-brandenburgian relations. As consequence of this Austria has recalled its ambassador to Brandenburg and will no longer offer any protective umbrella to said Margravate.
Later on soon after the english attack on Spain the II. russo-ottoman war was unleashed. Essentialy the Czar used the same strange tactics as in the first war and in consequence was soon in dire straits. As he didn´t assault the ottoman provinces of the Crimean and Central Asia but instead besieged them it was dumbfoundingly easy for the Turk - who still controlled the Black Sea - to send reliefforces and crush the besieging russian detachments. So the war essentialy became a bloody affair of attrition and doggedness. As it dragged on year after year my amazement with the conduct of both powers grew evermore. Deadlocked in this epic struggle they sent wave after wave of troops into the Crimean Meatgrinder and slaughtered each other. Finaly, as of now, Russia has seemingly broken through the ottoman lines. Also the Ottoman Empire is increasingly whacked by civil unrest and strife. Austrian Intelligence reports of widespread revolts in the many possessions of the Turk. Still this war should have been over long ago.
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Crimean Ambitions
Russia (1652-1677)
When his majesty Czar Alexej I. fell ill in 1652 it seemed as Russia would have to face yet another period or instablity and unrest but fortunatly the one of the Czar's cousin his elency Grand Duke Nicholas Romanov took the regency to lead Russia during the following two decades. Surprisingly soon Nicholas accepted the offer made by the Austrian archduke to participate in an offensive war against the heathen Turks hoping to get the strategical important Crimean peninsular as well as Astrakhan and the region around Sarai wich once had hosted the capital of the dreaded Golden Horde. Knowing that the Imperial Russian army had to use it's superiority on the battlefield instead of risking an assaults. The strategy devised by Nicholas called for luring the Ottomans out of their mountain strongholds in the Caucasus to defeat them in open battle and much to the expectationf of the Grand Duke the Ottoman forces were defeated time and time again and when finaly peace settled on the land Russia had not lost a single battle against the heathen.
While Sarai, Donetsk and Astrakhan had been conquered the Crimean was still occupied by the heathens and reflecting upon the shortcomings of the Russian forces made obvious by the British intervention Nicholas chose direct Russia's efforts towards Asia for the time beeing. While the Russian fortifications in he west were strengthened to improve the strategic situation if another conflict should arise Russian armys in Siberia took all of Manhchuria and humbled the pride Mongols as well.
Following the victory in Asia and recognizing that England was involved in a war with Spain Nicholas decided to use the situation to descend upon the Ottoman beast once again. Had he known the stubbornness of the Sultan whose armys were defeated time and time again Nicholas may have been more carefull but once started there was no going back. Much like in the previous war Russian armys successfully sweeped away the Ottoman armys only coming to a halt at the Caucasian Mountains and once againt the Turks were lured out of their holes like rats and like rats they were cast away into the sea. Even though Russia had to face two embarrassing defeats the Ottoman generals failed to capitalize on the few victorys they could sport and wasted their troops on fruitless assaults against the now fortified positions around Donetsk. With the Sultan unwilling to give up a single squaremile the war turned into a meatgrinder and casualtys on both sides rose. Finaly though the Imperial Russian Army was able to finish off the Turkish garrisons on the Crimean peninsular. Combined with the rising unrest in every part of the Turkish domains the Crimean war wich had become the single most important event of Nicholas' regency seemed to be all but decided in 1677...
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Russia (1652-1677)
When his majesty Czar Alexej I. fell ill in 1652 it seemed as Russia would have to face yet another period or instablity and unrest but fortunatly the one of the Czar's cousin his elency Grand Duke Nicholas Romanov took the regency to lead Russia during the following two decades. Surprisingly soon Nicholas accepted the offer made by the Austrian archduke to participate in an offensive war against the heathen Turks hoping to get the strategical important Crimean peninsular as well as Astrakhan and the region around Sarai wich once had hosted the capital of the dreaded Golden Horde. Knowing that the Imperial Russian army had to use it's superiority on the battlefield instead of risking an assaults. The strategy devised by Nicholas called for luring the Ottomans out of their mountain strongholds in the Caucasus to defeat them in open battle and much to the expectationf of the Grand Duke the Ottoman forces were defeated time and time again and when finaly peace settled on the land Russia had not lost a single battle against the heathen.
While Sarai, Donetsk and Astrakhan had been conquered the Crimean was still occupied by the heathens and reflecting upon the shortcomings of the Russian forces made obvious by the British intervention Nicholas chose direct Russia's efforts towards Asia for the time beeing. While the Russian fortifications in he west were strengthened to improve the strategic situation if another conflict should arise Russian armys in Siberia took all of Manhchuria and humbled the pride Mongols as well.
Following the victory in Asia and recognizing that England was involved in a war with Spain Nicholas decided to use the situation to descend upon the Ottoman beast once again. Had he known the stubbornness of the Sultan whose armys were defeated time and time again Nicholas may have been more carefull but once started there was no going back. Much like in the previous war Russian armys successfully sweeped away the Ottoman armys only coming to a halt at the Caucasian Mountains and once againt the Turks were lured out of their holes like rats and like rats they were cast away into the sea. Even though Russia had to face two embarrassing defeats the Ottoman generals failed to capitalize on the few victorys they could sport and wasted their troops on fruitless assaults against the now fortified positions around Donetsk. With the Sultan unwilling to give up a single squaremile the war turned into a meatgrinder and casualtys on both sides rose. Finaly though the Imperial Russian Army was able to finish off the Turkish garrisons on the Crimean peninsular. Combined with the rising unrest in every part of the Turkish domains the Crimean war wich had become the single most important event of Nicholas' regency seemed to be all but decided in 1677...
AAR-Cookie: ? ask Mungo what he wants
Core: ? ask Mungo what he wants
England and Spain agree to a 40 year NAP. Spain pays 5kD to England, and cedes Cochin, Diu, and Kandla(the city names, not prov names, for easy editing).
England also signs a 25 year NAP with France for 5kD and French support for English claims on Helveta
England also signs a 25 year NAP with France for 5kD and French support for English claims on Helveta
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events triggert
3124 option c or b depending if i have manus in the provs
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events triggert
3124 option c or b depending if i have manus in the provs
3125 option a
3127 option a
Some edits in order due to the CTD:
-all of Manchuria back to Russia
-the army wich was destroyed by the Mughals edited back (about 20K Inf and 10K Cav I wil check that) alternatively a small monetray compensation (400 gold should be enough to rebuild the destroyed army)
I will check the events file wether something is supposed to happen between 1709-1716
-all of Manchuria back to Russia
-the army wich was destroyed by the Mughals edited back (about 20K Inf and 10K Cav I wil check that) alternatively a small monetray compensation (400 gold should be enough to rebuild the destroyed army)
I will check the events file wether something is supposed to happen between 1709-1716
The Reign of Ampoliros II.
As my participation in our campaign is now concluded I would like to utter a few final statements on the matter at hand. First of I would like to say that Austria is a tough bi***. The mere location at the very center of Europe makes diplomacy a total must. Even though in this campaign a lot of players very comparatively passive and / or not there doing extended periods of time things still got hairy more than once.
I took over an Austria that was effectively in shambles. My goal from the very start was to consolidate and streamline. What I mean by this is.....I wanted to create a realm that was able to be defended. Sorelus´ expansionism led to confrontations with just about everyone and also made Austria´s borders precariously long. In short it was essentialy hopeless to entertain the notion of holding on, for example, to the the Lowlands - something I did not want anyway out of a sense of aesthetics. So my policy was in essence to sell off burdensome territory in the West and thus pacify France (something that worked remarkably well, imo, as France only dowed me in my very last session - after 200 years of peace), to reach an understanding with Brandenburg through territorial flexibility in the North and finaly to hammer the Turk all the way back to Constantinople. I had almost no dealings with Russia for most of the time which was primarly due to Mungojerrie´s extreme pacifism & isolationism. I had intended to vassalize more countries than just Brandenburg. The OE and Russia were also on my list. OE would have been a Cakewalk. As for Russia: When France dowed me I had +99 Warscore on Russia. With Russia still having to contend with the Sultan I am certain I would have been able to occupy St. Petersburg and make him my Vassal. As things turned out, though, France´s dow forced me to retreat all my forces back to Austria so Russia escaped protectorate status for now. I blame Spain for France´s attack because before the pathetic spanish capitulation (surrendering all of Italy) France was structuraly inferior to Austria. It had less manpower and could not field as big an army as the Habsburg Empire.
All in all it was a nice campaign even though I must say that from where I´m standing it suffered from a general lack of backbone. I will go into further detail about this later on but suffice to say: the primary powers France & Spain failed dismaly in doing anything against the english menace. It was absolutely clear from 1650 onwards that England was dominating Europe.....opressing it at its will. And what did France and Spain do? Signing NAP after NAP, bribing of the Lion of Albion like a bunch of cowardly cockroaches. Even Keule, who is a newbie in comparison, had the balls to risk the complete unknown when he dowed Drake in Indonesia. Austria usualy has no quarrels with England. I however became so disgusted with the inaction of above mentioned powers that I tried to organize a coalition against England myself. Sweden was willing (back in 1650) but again all plans were confounded first by France signing a NAP and then by Spain signing one too. Unbelievable from where I´m standing. Spain told me something like "he wanted to take care of the OE" - which at that time was already crumbling to dust, a power that was not able to treathen anyone.
Like in a schoolyard brawl you got kicked around individualy by the big bully and instead of organizing yourself and putting an effort into rectifying this situation you just passed on the blows to those that were already weaker than you.
This present war underlines my point. France signed a NAP with England yet again as did Spain. They then attacked Sweden together - as they knew it was no match for them. It was then up to KJ to tear up the NAP and finaly engage them....something they at no point had the Cochones to do themselves.
What are these ravings of mine about?
Well, from the very beginning of my EU II MP carreer it has always been a priority for me to engage those powers that were strongest relative to me. I did not, of course, attack England in this campaign but that was because it was simply unfeasible for me alone. I urged Spain several times to engage France together with me - he rejected.
Anyways....one should always contend with the number 1 power of every campaign - after all why do we play this game? We play to become the strongest power in Europe. That is the goal and intention of this game, to flush out the Hegemon. So if you only fight those that are weaker than you you fail as a Great Power and you also decrease the level of fun (at least for me).
France: Far too passive for my taste. France usualy is the nation that sets the pace of european affairs. It is potentialy the strongest and most influental of them all - King Royale. This France, however, just puttered on for like forever. Instead of fullfilling its destiny and shaping Europe to its will it focused on building colonies in Indonesia and trading while remaining at peace forever. So all in all dull. It did suit my plans well to have such a peaceful France but that doesn´t change the fact that this France was more like a big NL.
Spain: From a fierce and intensely insane warfiend to a geriatric pussycat - it went through the full scope. With Ego in charge one had the impression of power and anger going hand in hand with ambitious plans and nigh constant warfare. Diplomaticaly blundering, of course, but that role simply fell to me as his ally. I must say that I liked the way Ego handled Spain even if I did not like the constant whining of him in the forum. In any case once Ear took over things went from boiling to lukewarm very fast. Spain lost several wars against England in the colonies. One can assume that Spain was dismayed about this and wanted to change the paradigms of conflict.....but still: To Hell with Shanghai or all the other CoTs in the Far East. Spain had overexpanded itself and could well live with giving up some territory. Ear, imo, was not able to stomach the defeats and thus when France treathened him as well he just gave up without a fight and handed over all of Italy - something that f*cked up Austria´s position completely. I still can´t really believe it. He argued something about "all the refineries he would be able to build with the cash he got from France." Lol. Please. As if Spain, the richest power of them all needed even more cash and did not vitaly need the manpower from Italy. I would have never ever handed over half of my empire without a fight. That is, imo, a low and defeatist move. Preemptive surrender - yuck. In fact I was so enraged with this act that I challenged Spain to an honorable 1on1 against me. Not surprisingly he refused, hiding instead behind France (France declined to give me MA if Spain refused this war). France should vassalize Spain for in reality it already is France´s bi***. Spain is no longer a Greatpower - it is France´s sidekick.
The Ottoman Empire: Well "dogged determination" is perhaps the best word to describe it. The OE never really ammounted to much. Perhaps the austrian offensives in the 16th Century broke its backbone. In any case it soon became a victim and a punching bag for just about every power of Europe that wanted to have some action. I was impressed by Martmol´s good grace, however. He lost wars but never gave up and always played on - a quality I search invain for with many other players.
England: The sinister Kraken of the West. England was forged in brutality when it had to fight for its life against Spain (16th Century). Later on this rough childhood showed when England was in a position to inflict damage itself. Brought up in a socialdarwinistc fashion it was both ironly strong and also merciless. England thrashed Europe for a long time - did just about anything it wanted. I believe the main reason for the english attack on Austria (which I found quite impressive btw) was the fact that I was the only determined power left that had not yet bowed to english power - all the rest had by this time.
Brandenburg: Ghosted over long periods of time it was not really remarkable. Did well economicaly, teched fast and did a good job constructing all those forts but apart from that it was a nonentity. Staying at peace for the most and remaining neutral.....it interested itself with few and almost noone interested himself with it.
Ontime: Deflation
AAR: Cash $$$
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Ampoliros said:
hehe, most of the time the only thing i wanted to say to you all was: " screw you guys, im going home". but im just a noob of this game and im learning much playing ottoman. not only gameplay wise, but also about diffrent personalities
Hehe... well thanks for making me look like a good player but i am just a semi newbie.
As for the whining, you must be confusing this with some other game. I only whined once and that was in the end after all the shit i saw hapening.
There are things that can be tolerated and others that cannot. The way certain people played was almost like pressing F12 and writing Montezuma. Dont worry though - i took it as a compliment. If they have to resort to such dirty moves to beat me then i must be really good. Hell, even by doing such dirty things they were still getting beaten...
As for Ear - and without wanting to offend anyone - the moment i saw him joining as Spain after no one other then KJ invited him, i thought to myself - "Johnny wants to have an easy time with Spain. I guess he doesnt want to loose the current war. If any."