Considering the AI practice of disbanding it's entire navy when their ship goes obsolete I'd say the strait might unbalance things if you're unlucky 
Q: How to let the British Island join the HRE?
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Considering the AI practice of disbanding it's entire navy when their ship goes obsolete I'd say the strait might unbalance things if you're unlucky
Yeah, that's a fun little practice.
EDIT: WORKING NOW! (Thanks to Grandmasta removing the brackets around province IDs)
I've written up some code to mod the decisions/hre.txt file so that the join_hre decision will be available:
To Kent if Vlaanderen, Calais or Picardie are part of the HRE (the provinces' ports share the Straights of Dover sea province).
To Wessex if Caux, Normandie or Armor are part of the HRE (the provinces' ports share The Channel sea province).
Code:
province_decisions = {
join_hre = {
potential = {
hre = no
owner = { is_emperor = no }
religion_group = christian
owner = {
religion_group = christian
}
OR = {
any_neighbor_province = {
hre = yes
}
AND = {
province_id = 235
OR = {
90 = { hre = yes }
87 = { hre = yes }
89 = { hre = yes }
}
}
AND = {
province_id = 234
OR = {
167 = { hre = yes }
168 = { hre = yes }
169 = { hre = yes }
}
}
}
}
allow = {
OR = {
is_emperor = yes
emperor = { relation = { who = THIS value = 100 } }
}
owner = {
officials = 1
}
}
effect = {
owner = {
prestige = 0.02
officials = -1
}
emperor = {
country_event = 9493
set_province_flag = asked_join_hre
}
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
modifier = {
factor = 0
has_province_flag = asked_join_hre
emperor = { ai = no }
NOT = {
had_province_flag = {
flag = asked_join_hre
days = 3650
}
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
owner = {
tag = PAP
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
owner = {
NOT = {
emperor = {
religion = this
}
}
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
NOT = {
emperor = {
relation = {
who = THIS
value = 150
}
}
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
has_global_flag = Privileges_Revoked
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
emperor = {
badboy = 8
}
}
}
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join_hre_emp = {
Could more experienced modders take a look? Could somebody play test and see if it works (my Eu3 is buggy at the moment)?
I can upload a complete replacement decisions/hre.txt if that's easier than cut & paste.
If it works I'll add in all the other sea routes, Ireland, Malta, Sardinia etc... and mod the join_hre_emp decision so that the effect also works for the current emperor.
EDIT: Code working now, just copy & overwrite the code into decisions/hre.txt up to line join_hre_emp = {. Make sure to backup the file before making changes.
EDIT2: See post below (#35) for the full code so the decision is also available to the Emperor, and for easier install.
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Considering how historically inaccurate it would be for England/GB to join the HRE historically I think it's probably a good thing that they can't. Even today Britain is by far the most Europhobic nation in Europe (when we can bring ourselves to accept that we are in Europe in the first place), desire to be part of the Holy Roman Empire was nil during this game's time frame.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Thanks for the tip, the code is working now with the brackets removed.
The scopes file I got from the mod forum had the province ID listed in [], (maybe just for illustrative purposes???) so I mistakenly thought it the correct syntax.
Now that the code is working, what are peoples thoughts on sea lanes the HRE should cross?
I'm thinking England to Ireland, Sicily to Malta (and then perhaps to Africa), and Europe to Corsica to Sardinia.
Any others? Korea to Japan (or Sakhalin to Hokkaido), India to Sri Lanka, Kamchatka to Alaska etc... for a truly global HRE?
My rule of thumb is that if the provinces ports share a sea province, then the HRE should be able to skip across that collective sea province.
Not always...
Don't forget Britannia was part of both a pagan and Christian Roman Empire, and that England was conquered and ruled by kings that owned patronage to the successors of Charlemagne, i.e. France via Normandy & Angevin.
Also, but for those French vassals taking over, England would have continued to speak a German dialect very much in sync with the other states of the HRE. In an alternate history, that more German English could make a comeback.
When the game starts England still controls Calais, Gascony, and one next to it I've forgotten at the moment, and it's early missions are usually: Reclaim Normandy (which it still has a core on) in an effort to rebuild the Angevin Empire and the united kingdom of Henry VI.
Whilst it's definitely alternate history, England could have fit into the HRE, culturally & politically, at least until the Civil War and the Glorious Revolution made it incompatible with English liberty. But by that stage the real world HRE was more or less defunct, and the movement towards democracy need not happen in an Eu3 England..
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It's admittedly before the game's time frame, but I think it's worth pointing out that Richard, Earl of Cornwall (second son of king John - lived 1209-1272) was elected King of the Romans in 1256.
There's a rather big difference between that and joining England to the empire. The game models joining the wrong way around anyway. A province joining the empire represents your own monarch actually giving up some rights of sovereignty over it. It should be a very bad deal, very much contrary to the entire project of centralizing power to the state that is the goal of most states during this era. Certainly nobody tried adding provinces to the empire during the entirety of the Eu3 timeframe...
Thanks for the great work!
Can you add the hole event here?
Will be easier to just copy past it to the file then.
Perhaps the easiest way to get the British Isles into the HRE would be to simply edit the savefile. Just add one province and let the AI take care of the rest. You could even edit the province out of the HRE after the AI has added another one, so as to avoid giving them a "free" add.
This method allows the AI to add land to the HRE without an invasive alteration of other gameplay mechanics.
This method allows the AI to add land to the HRE without an invasive alteration of other gameplay mechanics.
Thanks for the great work!
Can you add the hole event here?
Will be easier to just copy past it to the file then.
Here you go, the full hre.txt event with mod, code updated so the decision also applies if you are Emperor.
Still the same provinces as above.
How to install:
Make a backup of the original hre.txt, located in the decisions folder.
Copy this code to notepad, save as hre.txt to the decisions folder, replacing the original hre.txt
Usually located at C:\Program Files\Paradox Interactive\Europa Universalis III\decisions\hre.txt
Effects:
Will allow the following English provinces to join the HRE:
Kent, if Vlaanderen, Calais or Picardie are part of the HRE (the provinces' ports share the Straights of Dover sea province)
Wessex, if Caux, Normandie or Armor are part of the HRE (the provinces' ports share The Channel sea province)
Will work when Emperor or not.
Use at your own risk.
Code:
province_decisions = {
join_hre = {
potential = {
hre = no
owner = { is_emperor = no }
religion_group = christian
owner = {
religion_group = christian
}
OR = {
any_neighbor_province = {
hre = yes
}
AND = {
province_id = 235
OR = {
90 = { hre = yes }
87 = { hre = yes }
89 = { hre = yes }
}
}
AND = {
province_id = 234
OR = {
167 = { hre = yes }
168 = { hre = yes }
169 = { hre = yes }
}
}
}
}
allow = {
OR = {
is_emperor = yes
emperor = { relation = { who = THIS value = 100 } }
}
owner = {
officials = 1
}
}
effect = {
owner = {
prestige = 0.02
officials = -1
}
emperor = {
country_event = 9493
set_province_flag = asked_join_hre
}
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
modifier = {
factor = 0
has_province_flag = asked_join_hre
emperor = { ai = no }
NOT = {
had_province_flag = {
flag = asked_join_hre
days = 3650
}
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
owner = {
tag = PAP
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
owner = {
NOT = {
emperor = {
religion = this
}
}
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
NOT = {
emperor = {
relation = {
who = THIS
value = 150
}
}
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
has_global_flag = Privileges_Revoked
}
modifier = {
factor = 0
emperor = {
badboy = 8
}
}
}
}
join_hre_emp = {
potential = {
hre = no
owner = { is_emperor = yes }
religion_group = christian
owner = {
religion_group = christian
}
OR = {
any_neighbor_province = {
hre = yes
}
AND = {
province_id = 235
OR = {
90 = { hre = yes }
87 = { hre = yes }
89 = { hre = yes }
}
}
AND = {
province_id = 234
OR = {
167 = { hre = yes }
168 = { hre = yes }
169 = { hre = yes }
}
}
}
}
allow = {
owner = {
officials = 1
}
}
effect = {
owner = {
prestige = 0.02
officials = -1
add_imperial_influence = 1
}
hre = yes
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
leave_hre = {
potential = {
hre = yes
owner = {
is_emperor = no
elector = no
}
}
allow = {
emperor = {
NOT = { relation = { who = THIS value = 0 } }
}
owner = {
officials = 1
}
}
effect = {
hre = no
owner = {
prestige = -0.02
officials = -1
}
add_imperial_influence = -1
emperor = { relation = { who = THIS value = -100 } }
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
modifier = {
factor = 0
OR = {
NOT = {
has_global_flag = Privileges_Revoked
}
owner = { relation = { who = emperor value = 0 } }
}
}
}
}
}
hre_decisions = {
vote_on_reichsreform = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = reichsreform }
}
allow = {
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9057
}
possible_province_event = 9058
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_reichsregiment = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = reichsregiment }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Reichsreform
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9059
}
possible_province_event = 9060
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_hofgericht = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Hofgericht }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Reichsregiment
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9061
}
possible_province_event = 9062
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_gemeinerpfennig = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Gemeinerpfennig }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Hofgericht
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9063
}
possible_province_event = 9064
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_landfriede = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Landfriede }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Gemeinerpfennig
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9065
}
possible_province_event = 9066
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_erbkaisertum = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Erbkaisertum }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Landfriede
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9069
}
possible_province_event = 9070
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_privilegia_de_non_appelando = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Privileges_Revoked }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Erbkaisertum
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9067
}
possible_province_event = 9068
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
vote_on_renovatio = {
potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Renovatio }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Privileges_Revoked
imperial_influence = 50
NOT = {
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -30
any_country = {
limit = {
AND = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
}
country_event = 9071
}
possible_province_event = 9072
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}
}Also uploaded the full txt at filefront (with hashed out install instructions at top of file):
http://www.filefront.com/15792939/hre.txt