Q: How to let the British Island join the HRE?

[Trebond]

I got a small problem, when ever I play as England, or GB, I cant get the desissions to let my provinces, on the British Island, join the HRE ..

Even when I got +200 rep, ally whit the emeror etc. The desissions just dont show up.

The same, when I'm emperor, and have taken land on the Island, then England cant join, even when I got +200 rep & alliance whit them ..

Any one got an idea why it is so, and how it can be fixed(if it can be fixed at all).

Thx for any reply(s).

 

[e-stab]

Impossible since you need neighbouring provinces in the HRE.

 

[unmerged(64629)]

not exactly true. what you need is that your capital is in HRE lands, that's it... so says if you conquer/whatever Ile-de-france (Paris) then move you capital there it's possible thru a few provincial descions to become part of the HRE.

As for being the emperor you don't need to be part of the HRE to do so, you can do what I call "Vote securing". it's rather easy for a big nation to do. You only have to conquer and vassalize enough HRE Electors (and keep them happy (i.e.: +100 Relations) to gain the majority. For exemple I am the current HRE empror as Spain.

 

[jonlucero]

Oh, so we can make the British Isles HRE land afterall..

 

[ZechsMerquise73]

But can you enter Brittish Isle PROVINCES into the empire? I know you can become a distant emperor, but I don't know if you can enter offshore provinces. (Weird, since Corisca and Sardinia are at start)

 

[sprites]

without modding it's impossible to join the isles to the HRE

 

[unmerged(64629)]

That's true, all the provincial descion about join the HRE (both if you are the empror or not) require that a neihbor province is part of the empire.

Maybe we could script some exceptions like Kent can join if Calais is part of the HRE or something?

 

[Cohacq]

Sprites: Then what needs to be modded in/out?

 

[unmerged(64629)]

just remove the "any_neihbor_province" bracket.

 

[unmerged(196349)]

Or make a land connection from Dover-Calais?

 

[I am.]

Or make a land connection from Dover-Calais?

a strait?

 

[naggy]

Or make a land connection from Dover-Calais?

Careful on that - it completely changes the balance of power between France and England if France can walk across.

 

[unmerged(186212)]

Yeah, that's a "strait" that's successfully crossed about every thousand years or so

 

[unmerged(148296)]

Yeah, all the Brits would need to do is put a navy there, and march to france.

 

[Trebond]

What I really would like was so the southern coast provinces on the island could join IF the controller of said provinces also own coast provinces on the main land, and this provinces is in the HRE.

In this way nothing on the map will chance. And when/if England control Calais, then fx Kent can join too...
But should England lose Calais, or its other coast provinces on the main land it cant join.

But I don't know anything about modding etc(only abit of event editing), so don't know if it even can be made this way.

 

[jdrou]

Maybe we could script some exceptions like Kent can join if Calais is part of the HRE or something?

I believe I recall that someone did exactly that for various islands that might reasonably join (Britain, Sardinia, Crete, connection across Gibralter, etc.).

 

[sprites]

put a strait and you'll see some french armies cross that channel
when the royal navy is busy chasing a few cogs in the mediterrannean , for example

 

[jdrou]

Found the mod by jordarkelf:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452165

Terra Nova and probably some other mods also include something like this.

 

[Garak]

Couldn't you theoretically make it so the neighboring province rule doesn't apply to the emperor? So if you became HRE as England, you could join all your provinces freely?

 

[Alerias]

This straight in adjacancies.csv would allow it:

235;87;sea;1271;Kent-Calais

I became used to the concept of a straight across the Channel in EU2 and resurrected it pretty early on. Once in awhile, Kent may turn French or Burgundian, okay, but usually the Royal Navy keeps it closed unless its really pummeled down.