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An idea - could add Communist nation in USA as separate tag as there was a red scare in early 1920s, if like crackdowns on worker strikes get out of hand. I think that is how in Kaisereich timeline, British Union arose, from backlash of the too harsh crackdowns on mining strikes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare#First_Red_Scare_(1917–1919)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare#First_Red_Scare_(1917–1919)
USA is first priority major. In good hands, they can change WWII situation even if Eurasia was divided between Reich and Japan
Why did I say that? This requires a lot of work. 7-8 events per year (Let say from 1919 to 1940s)
Not sure if i'm have time to finish it for coming version.
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Thanks for the help. I found a lot of old jap/Manchuria stuff on the net some of it was very good.
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Any tips for restored German Empire? I've tried two games with it so far and I'm hitting a brick wall mid to late 1939 - the event to anshlus Austria simply isn't firing, though I'm not sure if it should be avalalbe to the GE in the first place, without it, the path to potentially take parts of Chehoslovakia obviously isn't launching either, if at all possible for the GE. So what's happening is that if I choose to go for war during the event about provocation by "independent" Rhine, I'm ending up in short order in three front war - France, which is manageable, Poland, which might be managealbe too in theory with the army I can build at this point, but then the Chezs join the show as well and at that point there aren't enough divisions left to even slow them down. Is the only realistic option to choose to take the dissent and political hit and avoid the war at that point and going for it much later or am I just unlucky with being unable to annex Austria?
There is no Anchluss and Munich treaty for German Empire. It is not a bug
Good to know. So then I'll have to build large enough army to win a three front war before any adventures, if the manpower allows it. It's a good thing I've been doing manual saves every few months.
It was disscused before.
Of course, this all looks strange, but given that restored German Empire is smaller than the Weimar Republic, it is difficult to find a place for the Anschluss before the Second World War. So the Anschluss will be added during the Second World War.
Like i'm said before, in coming version, German Empire will have opportunity to annex Austria in 1920s, if GE survived in WWI and Austria-Hungary collapsed
As I've mentioned above, the issue is the strategic situation of restored GE. Without annexing Austria and adding their industry and military, it sucks. You need low to medium strength army facing the French in the west, if you went with the event to build the fortifications around Independent Rhine, if not and planned to overrun it, then you need much stronger army over there. Then you need a second decent army holding off Poland and a third one facing the Chezs. Even with the fortifications build up to max around Rhine, which I didn't do in this playthrough, I would be hard pressed to hold on those three off german soil, much less go on the offensive. Without fortifying the Rhine border, there are enough divisions to either contain the French and fight the Poles or the other way around with not enough left to even slow down the Chehz, much less actually winning one of the three fronts. Tonight I'll try going with taking the dissent hit, avoiding the war in '39 and seeing if I could build enough of a military with available manpower not to be overrun a few years later.
What's supposed to be the strategy of restored GE when 1939 comes knocking and it's facing a three front war from the start?
edit: I tried again, this time choosing not to launch the war to reclaim independent Rhine when the event appeared and the game degenerated into a mess soon after. Various events kept firing in late 1939 and early 1939 as if WWII had started, including automatic declaration of war against Denmark and Norway in may 1940, which was amusing considering that my only navy was one battleship received through event and without being able to secure the sealanes, I couldn't even take Denmark, much less even contemplate taking on Norway. Despite not being in war with the allies, events about the naval blockade preventing trade with Sweden as well as the allies sending reinforcements to Norway did fire. At least the French, Poles and Chehz haven't declared war yet.
I believe that the whole recreating the German Empire, associated events and viable strategies possible for them need a look over. There are still odd evens firing as if the Nazis are the ones in power as well.
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You are very new in this thread, right? Since about 10 times I said that I will remove the "Nazi" events for GE in coming version
I'm never give tips and advises. The rest of the players and GER AI have never encountered problems with the war on three fronts.
The war against the Rhine is the reason for the Second World War in the world of the restored German Empire. You decide to follow the path of pacifism. Why did you do this, I do not know.
I don’t understand what you are talking about. The war against Denmark was added as an alternative if the original reason for the war did not take place. I see no reason for change.
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Hold France and Poland, direct a tank rush towards the Rhine Republic and annex them within about a week of the war breaking out. Then redeploy those tanks to break the Czech lines and move on Prague and Bratislava. Czechoslovakia should crumble fairly quickly once their initial fort line is broken. After that you rush your mobile forces East and break Poland much like OTL Germany did. After that its smooth sailing to shift your entire force towards France.
Yeah, I'm new to the thread. The reason why I choose not to launch the war when I loaded a save in early 1939 earlier this evening is because I simply lacked the necessary divisions to fight a three front war. The situation gets a bit better in early 1940 when I get a few more divisions constructed in order to screen the Chehz but that was only possible if not launching said war when the event to do it or go the pacifist route fired.
Overruning Rhine with thanks and mot divisions is what was the original plan, which does happen easily. Then the issue is that I do need most of my divisions in the west to deal with the French when they surge through and the strategic situation becomes "interesting". In theory I do have the forces in the west to let the French overcommit, cut off and destory a large chunk of their army with a concentrated armour/mot push, which should eventually lead to the defeat of France. I also have three or four divisions in each province facing Polland, which could more or less hold their own intially or at least lose relatively slowly. That only left three brand new infantry divisions starring the Chehz and my strategic reserve - three tank/mot divisions covering the south-east. Needless to say, that didn't end well once the Chehz joined the war and surged all over the border. At that point, my armoured and mot divisions were too busy keeping the Chehz out of Berlin and counter-attacking French doom-stacks surging north east.
Attempt number two with the same army, just re-distributed ended even worse - I used just enough mobile forces to annex the Rhine, hoping that most of my infantry divisions in the west could hold down the French. That ended up with two massive battles near Saarbuhen and Metz that I was loosing, another battle against the Poles I was loosing near the borter with the Chehz, my divisions facing the Chehz fighting and slowly winning or loosing depending on location, and more Chehz divisions surging through the border in places where I simply didn't have the troops to cover with more than a single division which got overrun in a short order. Then the situation devovled in using armour formations to counter-attack while being slowly ground down.
Numbers wise, my army at that point was roughly on par with the French, just with more armour divisions.
Further, it didn't help that the anschlus event has been up for years and has been deceiving me with the possibility of annexing Austria and thus adding their industry and army to the equation. Without that, I might have cut down on building factories at least an year or two earlier and concentrated on building up the army much earlier as well.
In practical terms, the larger issues as things stand for the GE are the events firing up concerning the Chezh and Ausrria which can easily deceive someone new to this mod that the GE could try taking some clay over there for free, not to mention thus avoiding a three front war in 1939. The second issue is that you don't get the event to start WWII in the event list so you could fire it at leisure thus giving the option to launch the war later in case you haven't build up a large enough army to hold down two opponents and knock out a third in a short order by mind 1939, instead it fires up and you can either start the war at a time you can't possibly win unless the AI does something unusually stupid or have to go the pacifist route, which apparently at this time still assumes that the war starts anyway and WWII related events fire anyway as you progress in early 1940.
So basically the strategy should be to transition into full military buildup somewhere in 1936 at the latest and hope you have enough divisions to get the job done when mid 1939 comes knocking? I might try it with one of my older saves or more likely, wait for the next version of the mod.
After reading the whole thread I think it makes sense also for me to state the issues I have with the mod, as Nikita seems to be quite responsive about them.
FYI I am a Pole and a hyperaggressive DH player - also, the issues are in random order.
-Polish national holiday is on 11th of Nov, not 11th of Oct (literally the same day as end of WWI)
-It's weird that CZE does not threaten AUS with war for sudetenland if St. Germain has light terms (especially given the CZE approach to sudetengermans at the end of WWII IRL)
Also above would give a chance for AUS to integrate those slavic speaking germans into austria (puppet or cores) if there was a war against St. Germain resolutions (even Hitler considered Czechs as germanisable not-that-slavics, which had some basis given how widely was the german language known)
-HUN does not get any event with attempted return of Karl (and if I summon it via console, the trigger of reaction by CZE does not work), the only event that mentiones Karl is probably from Vanilla, giving just 2 points of dissent with one option to choose
-GRE does not get cores on Constantinople (and even Smyrna, city with most definite greek majority at the time) until 1923, while already getting cores for armenia and southern bulgaria as soon as possible (could you please unify the start date for core events?)
-Carl Gustav von Mannerheim has literally no trait as finnish army minister (I assume there was a special personality for him, the linking is down)
-Poland is soooooo OP in 1918 scenario, I found it disappointing that the peace treaty stopped my advance on Moscow - that is especially weird given that 1920 scenario is well balanced in general, and much more sensible for POL (read: likely to end historical way, with miracle of warsaw included - although I did win totally without it after some clever planning)
-also speaking of Poland - it's a bit too easy to kill the dissent with all those event (I mean may coup happened for a reason, even Pilsudski was tired of that shit and stepped out of the shadows)
-in general 1918 scenario is much less playable than 1920 - everybody starts with exactly the same maximum tech, a lot of countries also start with almost perfectly modernised army
1920 looks better in this regard - even though the awkward tech advancement is still there, there is also a lot of that useless 1914 inf flying around, forcing the player to think, not just stomp the enemy with numerical superiority of same 1918 inf everywhere
-Japanese trigger for war with soviets for some reason wants japs to have 4 divs in the capital of North Korea
-is it intentional that Ukraine in 1920 scenario has her troops with almost zero strength? Also - while it makes perfect sense to locate the capital in Vinnitsa with no keypointts, they should have an even that moves them to Kiev in case Poles saved somehow them from annexation (which was my key to win the war without the miracle) and won the war totally
-as pointed out before - Polish cores beyond Katowice and Gleiwitz, maybe Oppeln make no sense (for the same reason for which both in vanilla and in PWV POL has cores on just Olsztyn/Allenstein, not on the whole East Prussia
-also why do whites not have cores on Georgia, Ukraine when SOV does right from the start?
Speaking of whites - is it inentional that in 1920 scenario Denikin has not only less troops than soviets (well, obviously), but also has that God-awful 1916 model instead of 1918?
-coming back to the subject of Poles - given the relationships in the interwar period Lithuania would definitely require long integration, not outright cores, in case of annexation - attaching it to the events about Latvia and Estonia would be a simple, yet elegant solution (except for the provinces of Wilno and Grodno of course - ethnic polish majority there)
-it has been mentioned here, but it's annoying enough to mention again - why on earth does Yugoslavia steal Klagenfurt from Austria? even puppeting it would make more sense as a result of lost war
-Why on earth does CZE have Katowice at some points? They never occupied the region, they never claimed it - the only POL-CZE conflict is well-represented already with the province of Tesin (Cieszyn) - instead Katowice should start in GER and be the result of award (with Oppeln if the uprising is ahistorically successful) in the events about silesian uprising
-POL gets an event of assasination of Narutowicz even after total victory over soviets (so with either Sapieha or Wojciechowski as HoS)
-Germany is a bit too happy to give up it's provinces, with 50 percent of chance to accept basically any claims from Poland (even ones that reach west of Oder/Odra)
-Japan has a weird fleet, best example of that is Kaga in 1920 not only launched, but already launched as aircraft carrier 2 years before Washington
FYI I am a Pole and a hyperaggressive DH player - also, the issues are in random order.
-Polish national holiday is on 11th of Nov, not 11th of Oct (literally the same day as end of WWI)
-It's weird that CZE does not threaten AUS with war for sudetenland if St. Germain has light terms (especially given the CZE approach to sudetengermans at the end of WWII IRL)
Also above would give a chance for AUS to integrate those slavic speaking germans into austria (puppet or cores) if there was a war against St. Germain resolutions (even Hitler considered Czechs as germanisable not-that-slavics, which had some basis given how widely was the german language known)
-HUN does not get any event with attempted return of Karl (and if I summon it via console, the trigger of reaction by CZE does not work), the only event that mentiones Karl is probably from Vanilla, giving just 2 points of dissent with one option to choose
-GRE does not get cores on Constantinople (and even Smyrna, city with most definite greek majority at the time) until 1923, while already getting cores for armenia and southern bulgaria as soon as possible (could you please unify the start date for core events?)
-Carl Gustav von Mannerheim has literally no trait as finnish army minister (I assume there was a special personality for him, the linking is down)
-Poland is soooooo OP in 1918 scenario, I found it disappointing that the peace treaty stopped my advance on Moscow - that is especially weird given that 1920 scenario is well balanced in general, and much more sensible for POL (read: likely to end historical way, with miracle of warsaw included - although I did win totally without it after some clever planning)
-also speaking of Poland - it's a bit too easy to kill the dissent with all those event (I mean may coup happened for a reason, even Pilsudski was tired of that shit and stepped out of the shadows)
-in general 1918 scenario is much less playable than 1920 - everybody starts with exactly the same maximum tech, a lot of countries also start with almost perfectly modernised army
1920 looks better in this regard - even though the awkward tech advancement is still there, there is also a lot of that useless 1914 inf flying around, forcing the player to think, not just stomp the enemy with numerical superiority of same 1918 inf everywhere
-Japanese trigger for war with soviets for some reason wants japs to have 4 divs in the capital of North Korea
-is it intentional that Ukraine in 1920 scenario has her troops with almost zero strength? Also - while it makes perfect sense to locate the capital in Vinnitsa with no keypointts, they should have an even that moves them to Kiev in case Poles saved somehow them from annexation (which was my key to win the war without the miracle) and won the war totally
-as pointed out before - Polish cores beyond Katowice and Gleiwitz, maybe Oppeln make no sense (for the same reason for which both in vanilla and in PWV POL has cores on just Olsztyn/Allenstein, not on the whole East Prussia
-also why do whites not have cores on Georgia, Ukraine when SOV does right from the start?
Speaking of whites - is it inentional that in 1920 scenario Denikin has not only less troops than soviets (well, obviously), but also has that God-awful 1916 model instead of 1918?
-coming back to the subject of Poles - given the relationships in the interwar period Lithuania would definitely require long integration, not outright cores, in case of annexation - attaching it to the events about Latvia and Estonia would be a simple, yet elegant solution (except for the provinces of Wilno and Grodno of course - ethnic polish majority there)
-it has been mentioned here, but it's annoying enough to mention again - why on earth does Yugoslavia steal Klagenfurt from Austria? even puppeting it would make more sense as a result of lost war
-Why on earth does CZE have Katowice at some points? They never occupied the region, they never claimed it - the only POL-CZE conflict is well-represented already with the province of Tesin (Cieszyn) - instead Katowice should start in GER and be the result of award (with Oppeln if the uprising is ahistorically successful) in the events about silesian uprising
-POL gets an event of assasination of Narutowicz even after total victory over soviets (so with either Sapieha or Wojciechowski as HoS)
-Germany is a bit too happy to give up it's provinces, with 50 percent of chance to accept basically any claims from Poland (even ones that reach west of Oder/Odra)
-Japan has a weird fleet, best example of that is Kaga in 1920 not only launched, but already launched as aircraft carrier 2 years before Washington
-Alright, thanks
- A moot point. The country suffered in the war against communist Hungary, and most likely it will not then threaten Austria. Although the idea is good
- F 12? Why? If Karl became emperor of Austria, He will immediately attack Hungary. What reaction should be from Hungary? Attack Austria a little earlier? Not sure what makes sense.
-GRE will have cores on Const and Asian Minor after integration events.
-Thanks, will fix his trait
-No. Just No. The Soviet state sometimes destroys Poland 4 times in a row. And SOV AI can control Warsaw before January 1920
-Do you propose to reduce the effect of events? Well, debatable, I'll think about it
-I gave everyone an equal amount of technology. Do you propose that a country like Liberia, Tibet and Nepal have less technology? I understood your point of view. I will distribute it but a little later.
-I'm need a proof that JAP AI is ready to attack Soviets. That's why event demands to have garrison in N.Korea.
-Yes. In 1920 Ukraine was in a state of agony, in the army there was a massive desertion. It's a good idea to add event that will allow to move the capital if the country was saved. Thanks
-Thanks ,I'll fix it
- What the problem here? They demanded from Austria this territory. But later they changed their minds because they did not want a new military conflict that could provoke other countries to join it.
-Let us suppose. I'm could change CZE territorial claims
-About Narutowicz - Thanks
-About GER & JAP - thank i'll fixt it later
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Yes, the country suffered, but the border of German Austria was plain and simple undefendable (also it creates a bordergore on map with no reaction of CZE.
I'm not talking about being king of Austria (actually the choice of events in game is interesting as austrian throne is the only one Karl IIRC explicitly renounced), I'm talking about being king of Hungary (which even IRL Karl did try to reclaim... TWICE). So what I'm suggesting here is making/activating a chain of events in which austria stays as republic, but restoration, followed by 3-front war happens in hungary (the 3-front war open threat was the very reason which IRL made the regent arrest and expel his king)
Please, please make the events about cores on Armenia and Plovdiv start ALSO in 1923, then - for consistency.
Yes, big hit that might be enough: independence day down to -1 (it's -3 now IIRC), maybe also ultimatum to latvia estonia that reduces by 1 or even raises by 1 (nationalists do not approve of reducing and reducing of % of Poles in Poland - also that was the reason IRL Minsk for example stayed on the soviet side - polish nationalists literally did not want it)
Thanks! Exactly that's what I mean - also maybe basically no marine tech for historically landlocked countries - but that's for much later, I do understand the workload needed here.
The province bordering vladivostok makes so much more sense
I'm quite sure we are not talking about the same province here (similar case to Katowice). The tension was mostly italo-yugoslav about partition of formerly austrian lands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Rapallo_(1920) ) - Klagenfurt belongs to Austria proper, was and is inhabited by austrians alone and was not a subject of any discussion (I think the game even hints toward the Rapallo thing by mentioning Istria, could be wrong here)
There is no reason to murder a Swiss engineer of polish descent by a polish nationalist if he is not the president of Poland
Which new version's alternative is the most interesting one for you?
For me it is the Red Hungary: it will start in position similar to the red Russia (encilcred by enemies from all sides), but it will be able to grow into a big socialist union. I'm sure, that it will be satysfiyng, and that the later fight with Germany will be interesting.
For me it is the Red Hungary: it will start in position similar to the red Russia (encilcred by enemies from all sides), but it will be able to grow into a big socialist union. I'm sure, that it will be satysfiyng, and that the later fight with Germany will be interesting.
Red HUN? This is an snack for the main course.
I gave part of my soul for WWI Scenarios and alternative about victorious CP block
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