Pwned?

[mib]

So in about 80 years, you, as Saxony, managed to find the time and money to bribe and diploannex almost everything on that screenshot? I'd like to believe you, but where did you find the money?

Edit: I guess you took money from the treasure slider perhaps? That explains why you're so low on tech. What's your inflation?

How did you find out what his tech levels are?

 

[Nimic]

How did you find out what his tech levels are?

He said he's at "like 2land 1naval" while the AI are at 7-8. It's in his second post .

 

[unmerged(65443)]

I just didnt understand what was happening here

Firstly, I have never saved and loaded, 'cept to save when I goto bed and load int he morning :rofl:

Yea, Im a bit of a badboy, I jumped from 11 to 36 when I annexed Burgundy, and that was the only major power that I annexed, luckily I have a diplo 8 leader so that brought me right to under my limit, and Ive been throwing tons and tons of cash at the curia to keep in control to help me drop those points and im at 30.66 right now, Im going to wait till I get back down to around 10 before I try to annex anything else.

I do throw alot of coin into the treasury, making about 68.1 in profit, investing a total of about 59.3 in tech and 9.4 for my military. My total inflation is 39.5, with a change of 0.57 with my current budget.

My tech levels in order are 9,5,4,2,3

As far as wars go, they're never an issue, look at my forcelimit I usually have about 1500 coins sitting in my treasury (I just built a university in that screenshot to get rid of some extra coin) and I have enough forces, about 30,000 troops stationary to hold off assaults then I just set almost every province to build either Maurician infantry or Eastern Hussars or whatever happens to be available, all of burgundy lets me build the Maurician infantry, and the entire eastern border lets me build eastern hussars, otherwise im stuck with men at arms and latin knights Hungary did declare war on me, and I held them off until my forces built and well... look at them now
I think Military Drill idea is helping me out

I think the issue I have with diplo-annex, is the fact I regularly at the beginning offer-vassalised and diplo-annexed countries twice my size without an issue! One time, I vassalised 3 countries my own size and bigger in a ROW without any turn downs!

Please, any suggestions and help would be most welcomed! I'm trying to be able to keep up with the tech and I just cant except for apparently in government

And taking someones suggestion, I'm going to play as Serbia. I don't have a game manual however, so any suggestions on how to keep up with tech would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys

 

[theshrub]

To keep up with tech, dont mint so much money, or any at all really. The best way to tech up is to live off your yearly tax revenues. Your treasury slider on the Budget screen should be all the way down to zero unless you're in or nearing a crisis situation.

 

[Sterkarm]

40 inflation?! Good lord! 40 inflation is insane, at least from my experience with EU2. Do you realize that makes everything you ever buy, build, or research 40 percent more expensive than normal? Yeah, your tech levels are screwed in the long run. Unless you manage to destroy all your possible rivals now, things can only get worse. Your average inflation from game start (assuming 1453) is somewhere around .55/year. Even now you're increasing it, wow.

As others have said, try this against any competent human player and you would be dead in no time. Honestly, 40 percent inflation... I am one of the most mint-happy players I've ever known of, and the highest I've reached in probably 300 years in EU2 was 38 percent as Russia in the very late 18th century.

 

[Duuk]

As far as wars go, they're never an issue, look at my forcelimit

Once the AI hits land tech 11 compared to your 2, they'll have enough of a tech lead that they'll routinely shatter armies that are 10x their size.

Just so you know, I had 3 regiments (3000 men) conquer the Mayas, Aztecs, and Zapotecs (that had combined armies of about 50000) at the same time. My tech was 13 to their 0. This wasn't in EU2. It was last night in EU3.

I normally go entire games without reaching 10 inflation. I'm currently disappointed in my Castillian game because I'm at 9.4 in 1570, but I needed the money to convert the pagans.

 

[minority]

You're huge and your inflation's quite crazy for the time. Both of this increases tech costs.

Open your ledger and look on the first page. Sort the nations according to inflation and you'll see that you're probably way ahead of most people. That's bad.

And a 30,000 army is not sufficient for a country of that size IMHO. It's a lot of gound to cover, and it'll be tough when you have more than one front to handle. A 10k army at level 7 against level 2 can probably melt your forces or at least drive it back.

And I take it since you didn't fight a lot of wars you have a low military tradition. So the generals you hire won't be too good, and other more experienced nations can probably have much better generals.

I think you could take less money from your treasury. With a country that size, your yearly tax income should cover your spending needs. Your monthly income would serve better being invested in techs.

 

[unmerged(55324)]

Yeah, agreed. Either way, try that in Multiplayer and watch your empire get eaten up by hungry players

While I agree that the same results would be impossible to duplicate in Multiplayer, it would not be because of hungry players but simply because multiplayer is too unstable and buggy to play.

 

[Duuk]

I didn't even read that part (30k troops!)

In my current game, Portugal has 30k troops. I'm sitting tight with 70k. I know France is a monster, but I've never fought them this game. I've seen them move around multiple stacks of 20k though.

Unlike EU2, in EU3 the AI is quite capable of defending itself, too.

 

[unmerged(16181)]

But remember, the lesser states there are in the HRE, the smaller the bonus from being emperor.

Really? Cool.

I always wanted an incentive for countries not to annex the whole Empire.

I don't mean this to be an accusation, but it wouldn't suprise me if the "save-load strategy" has been used here.

The only way to diploannex.

 

[unmerged(65443)]

Are you kidding? Lol I never saved-loaded, I just attempted, and failed, bribbed back up to 200, attempted again, usually takes me 10 tries and 400ish gold to get an annex

 

[The_Pope]

Are you kidding? Lol I never saved-loaded, I just attempted, and failed, bribbed back up to 200, attempted again, usually takes me 10 tries and 400ish gold to get an annex

Don't read to this suckers They just have envy. But i'd really like to see your mighty fall, as all great empires. Please keep us updated!

 

[unmerged(65830)]

To keep up with tech, dont mint so much money, or any at all really. The best way to tech up is to live off your yearly tax revenues. Your treasury slider on the Budget screen should be all the way down to zero unless you're in or nearing a crisis situation.

OH SNAP!

I hope I have not flushed my country down the economic toilet. I'm still in my first game and have been adjusting my slider to make a small monthly profit the whole time. My inflation is in the mid twenties already and it's only 1520.

 

[HarkovAdm]

40% inflation or not, Saxony is in a stronger position than it was in 1453

That is a lot of inflation but who is left to stop him? He still has the latin tech tree and a non-tribal form of government

 

[HarkovAdm]

OH SNAP!

I hope I have not flushed my country down the economic toilet. I'm still in my first game and have been adjusting my slider to make a small monthly profit the whole time. My inflation is in the mid twenties already and it's only 1520.

LOL yeah 20% is a lot hehe. Probably not enough to make you lose the game vs the ai, but yes 20% is very bad

The general rule is to only print if you must during wartime, and to try to avoid printing altogether by saving money in case someone declares war on you (yes it is tempting to spend it all I know).

In EU2 I think sometimes people would print some money earlier in the game to pay for tax collector city improvements, because they were such good investments, but now you don't get the 50% tax guy until later in the game and by then you have more money so you don't need to print. I would say try to keep inflation as low as possible the whole game (rely on your census tax for cash).

 

[unmerged(16181)]

I hope I have not flushed my country down the economic toilet. I'm still in my first game and have been adjusting my slider to make a small monthly profit the whole time. My inflation is in the mid twenties already and it's only 1520.

I would be impressed if your country wasn't flushed down the economic toilet in your first game. During my first EU2 game (as Austria), by 1819 I was closer to the Inca tech-wise than to Saxony.

 

[Falconhurst]

Still an impressive accomplishment for his first stab at a Paradox game. The screenshot is appreciated. Learning to keep inflation low comes with time (and I have been playing without diplo-annexing, because it does make the game too easy) and big nations with lots of foreign cultures and non-cores can kill tech rates. This is still a valuable expose of the diploannex feature that may need to be looked at, as well as being an impressive accomplishment for a first try, whatever fine-tuning lessons there may be in other strategy issues.

 

[VikingKing]

Its a well played game. Congrats on what you did so far.

However a lot of players are right. In the long run your rather screwed. Hell if someone took France they could diplo annex all the minors, take Burgundy and Spain rather easily and conquer most of Europe.

With current inflation your going up very rapidly. If you want to test it go after a large nation with higher land techn and see how well you do. Also its easier to diploanex nations with similar cultures and on normal or easy (which setting is it on?)

 

[unmerged(65443)]

Its on Hard, and I have some updates...

BadBoy down to 24
Inflation up to 45
I adjusted my incomes and my techs are BOOMING
13,9,7,5,8 , 140gold investment, 20 into military (did a little expanding) and 20 is coming into my treasury per turn. I've built a workshop, temple, and courthouse in every city, university in 2, textile mill in 1, and constable in half. Munster/Ultech declared war on me, and I whooped their ass, took all their land and vassalised their capitals. I'm keeping france happy as I can And I'm in the process of diploannexing the swiss now. Year is 1566, I got 12 full-sized colonies, and 4 im still building in asia.

Due to the inflation rate however, I'm about to just start over

 

[DukeWilleo1630]

Most of that I attained from allying, royal marriage, then bribing up to 200, offer vassalage, if they refuse I bribe em up to 200 again and offer again, until they're a vassal, then I keep em at 200 and then after 10 years demand annex.

The only province I think I gained thru war was some from the swiss, wurtzburg area, and bosnia area.


This is my first time playing a game from this series, and this being the first campaign I've played out I cant seem to find a way to make it challenging because the diplomacy seems so static at times, and other times it just doesnt make sense, like Bavaria right there refuses to ally with me (200 relations), yet Burgundy jumps at the opportunity to be absorbed into my nation!


Also the tech seems a bit ridiculous, im at like 2land 1naval and my neighbors are at upwards of 7-10 for each, why is my tech rate soo slow??


There needs to be alot changed/added to this game imo, I played this on hard difficulty as a worthless little bumfuck country and look at this

I tried as bavaria first since thats where I was born to learn the game, I dont have a manual so Im just figuring this out as I go, I JUST learned how to explore today!

Are you using the money cheat? I don't see how you could diplo-annex all those nations by 1541 with the skimpy income of a 4-province german minor.