Putting the Band Back Together. The story of sh*tshow achievement

[Big Willy Wilson]

While I understand your frustration, why didn't you check the achievement browser on game start? That should have told you that you weren't eligible.

I can't remember the achievement, but I had gotten around that before and thought I could again. Clearly I didn't account for the achievement browser this time.

 

[LetaBot]

An easy way to fix this is to make it be either having AH in your faction, or Austria and Hungary. That way it can be done in historical as well.

 

[Rashie]

Wow, I just wasted 5 or so hours of my life conquering Asia (because peace deals in this game make sense) just to annex Turkey. I spent $10 just to suffer for a bugged achievement. What a fool I was to think that it would work. I really I thought I had a stroke of genius. Thank you for this, it would saved me a lot of time had I read it.

This achievement would be a lot more sensible if it focused on a nation that have more control over whether Austria-Hungary comes into existence in the early game, either as a Germany or a Hungarian centred one, but yeah, it's a Turkey only one.

 

[shepherd352]

Just did the achievement. Restarted until Hungary went Balanced Budget, then when Germany declared on them for Sudeten, joined the war, won, and puppeted them.

Seems to be a lot of restarting, with lost progress on every attempt. I assume it was ahistoric? I suspect this may be the only way but has anyone else got suggestions?

 

[Cpt.Cross]

Seems to be a lot of restarting, with lost progress on every attempt. I assume it was ahistoric? I suspect this may be the only way but has anyone else got suggestions?

Just Cheat.

 

[Big Willy Wilson]

Just did the achievement. Restarted until Hungary went Balanced Budget, then when Germany declared on them for Sudeten, joined the war, won, and puppeted them.

Does Hungary have to pick Balanced Budget first? Or could it pick it later if it picks Secret Rearmament or Industrial Revitalization first?

 

[Aeroclub]

Seems to be a lot of restarting, with lost progress on every attempt. I assume it was ahistoric? I suspect this may be the only way but has anyone else got suggestions?

Not really, I restarted maybe 4-5 times until they did Balanced Budget, saved the game and created a copy. This way, if I need to restart, I can just go with A-H Hungary right off the bat.

Does Hungary have to pick Balanced Budget first? Or could it pick it later if it picks Secret Rearmament or Industrial Revitalization first?

They don't have to, but for the reason mentioned above, it is easier to to do it this way (so that you can redo the entire playthrough with Hungary still being locked into A-H tree. Also, I think it's better if they flip and get the Czechs ASAP for my approach to work, so that they have them before Sudeten and also take advantage of all of the new industry and cores to prepare for war.

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

Not really, I restarted maybe 4-5 times until they did Balanced Budget, saved the game and created a copy. This way, if I need to restart, I can just go with A-H Hungary right off the bat.


They don't have to, but for the reason mentioned above, it is easier to to do it this way (so that you can redo the entire playthrough with Hungary still being locked into A-H tree. Also, I think it's better if they flip and get the Czechs ASAP for my approach to work, so that they have them before Sudeten and also take advantage of all of the new industry and cores to prepare for war.

jesus.... the fact that any of this is necessary for this......

 

[Aeroclub]

jesus.... the fact that any of this is necessary for this......

I know right. But there's literally no way to do it unless ahistorical Hungary goes down that route.

But then again, that's not as bad as that Stellaris achievement of winning the artifact lottery which has like 0.2% chance per playthrough and you only know about towards the end of it.

 

[eastcoastceojam]

Sounds like the HOI4 team finally came up with an achievement even more frustrating than CK2's "Wise Guy" achievement.

To get the cheevo you needed the "Legendary Wisdom" modifier on your ruler, which had a 16% of firing after 100 years. But the focus that granted that modifier was highly likely to kill you in less than 10 years. Even Immortal characters couldn't get it after centuries of waiting... now that's some RNG.

Wise Guy Achievement

Hello, folks. I’m having serious issues with the Wise Guy Achievement. So, from what I understand, there are four levels to the Stewardship focus: Amateur Steward, Steward, Administrator (the lifestyle trait), and Legendary Wisdom. Each...

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[shepherd352]

Just did the achievement. Restarted until Hungary went Balanced Budget, then when Germany declared on them for Sudeten, joined the war, won, and puppeted them.

If I understand your comment:
1. You made sure Hungary went down the correct path.
2. You declared war on Germany at the Sudeten Crisis (winning enough war score to puppet some of Germany).
3. You then gave Austrian regions to Hungary, allowing them to progress to the AH Empire.

I'm guessing between the lines because I have been unable to help Hungary defeat Austria before the Anschluss hits.

 

[Aeroclub]

If I understand your comment:
1. You made sure Hungary went down the correct path.
2. You declared war on Germany at the Sudeten Crisis (winning enough war score to puppet some of Germany).
3. You then gave Austrian regions to Hungary, allowing them to progress to the AH Empire.

I'm guessing between the lines because I have been unable to help Hungary defeat Austria before the Anschluss hits.

Almost.

1. I savescummed until Hungary went the correct path.
2. In my playthrough, they annexed Austria first and then grabbed Czechoslovakia before the Sudeten crisis (the Czech chose complete annexation).
3. Then, when the Germans demanded Sudeten, emboldened A-H refused (I think they always do if they get this powerful and/or have some faction help to back them up), and the Germans declared.
4. We basically just held the line (pretty easy), until the Germans were at war with everyone else (all kinds of wonky stuff can happen at this stage because its not historical), and then just pushed for Berlin.

UPD: I think I actually didn't get the Central Powers focus in time before Sudeten...I either manually created a faction after the war started or guaranteed A-H, don't remember exactly.

 

[shepherd352]

2. In my playthrough, they annexed Austria first and then grabbed Czechoslovakia before the Sudeten crisis (the Czech chose complete annexation).

Did Hungary defeat Austria solo? I twice tried to help them but, even with my 8 "volunteer" divisions helping Hungary, Austria held the line until Anschluss. I could improve my divisions (they had no artillery). Perhaps I just need a wilder RNG. The game went very historic, other than Hungary. Save scumming a faster Hungarian path might help too.

 

[Aeroclub]

Did Hungary defeat Austria solo? I twice tried to help them but, even with my 8 "volunteer" divisions helping Hungary, Austria held the line until Anschluss. I could improve my divisions (they had no artillery). Perhaps I just need a wilder RNG. The game went very historic, other than Hungary. Save scumming a faster Hungarian path might help too.

The voted. I think that if they do the Integrate Railroads focus, the chances of a successful referendum are pretty high.

 

[opsircrocodile]

That’s been the case of Jose Diaz for 7 months now. If you don’t own La Resistance, he has no portrait. Paradox still have not fixed this. Classic.

Franco still can't join the Latin Entente if he is not fascist but can join the Axis.

 

[shepherd352]

The voted. I think that if they do the Integrate Railroads focus, the chances of a successful referendum are pretty high.

I waited for them to Integrate the railways and then do the Hapsburg Prince. At this point, it seems there is a 50% chance Hungary will demand Austria by force, about a 35% chance of asking for a Referendum and the remaining % is with a random focus. If they go for a referendum, I got 18 fails and no success. My guess is that their opinions of each-other are too low but in Ironman I can't check it.

Going for a successful referendum by the AI does not seem a good strategy.

 

[Tsavong]

If hungary goes down the needed austria-hungary path but fails to defeat austria and so finally gets eaten by germany , everything is still fine for the achievement.
You can just conquer the world ( there is anyway an achievement for that) and then liberate hungary in a peacedeal and grand them the austrian cores. It will then pick the unification focus at some point.
I did this achievement so in my run for the other ottoman AV.

 

[krokobone]

I don't know of there was a change in the beta patch, but I've just got this achievement quite easily. Hungary went for balanced budget and Austria submitted to the referendum, than I just had to raise the popularity of fascism in Austria-Hungary to make them join the Axis. (France and Britain also went Fascist, so it was a pretty lucky run.) I don't know of I just got lucky or if the chances for AI doing Austria-Hungary were tweaked.

 

[Aeroclub]

I waited for them to Integrate the railways and then do the Hapsburg Prince. At this point, it seems there is a 50% chance Hungary will demand Austria by force, about a 35% chance of asking for a Referendum and the remaining % is with a random focus. If they go for a referendum, I got 18 fails and no success. My guess is that their opinions of each-other are too low but in Ironman I can't check it.

Going for a successful referendum by the AI does not seem a good strategy.

The events can't be savescummed since 1.7, so their outcome is predetermined. If you got the "random" seed that says Austria votes no, then no amount of reload will help. But chances are pretty good:

# Austrian Referendum - event for Austria to allow it
country_event = {
id = DOD_hungary.1
title = DOD_hungary.1.t
desc = DOD_hungary.1.desc
picture = GFX_report_event_election_vote

is_triggered_only = yes

option = { #sure
name = DOD_hungary.1.a
ai_chance = {
factor = 80

}
if = {
limit = {
AND = {
NOT = { HUN = { has_completed_focus = HUN_reintegrate_the_railroads } }
NOT = { AUS = { has_opinion = { target = HUN value > 75 } } }
}
}
random_list = {
70 = { AUS = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.2 hours = 24 } } } #country votes yes
30 = { AUS = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.3 hours = 24 } } } #country votes no
}
}
if = {
limit = {
OR = {
AND = {
HUN = { has_completed_focus = HUN_reintegrate_the_railroads }
NOT = { AUS = { has_opinion = { target = HUN value > 75 } } }
}
AND = {
NOT = { HUN = { has_completed_focus = HUN_reintegrate_the_railroads } }
AUS = { has_opinion = { target = HUN value > 75 } }
}
}
}
random_list = {
80 = { AUS = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.2 hours = 24 } } } #country votes yes
20 = { AUS = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.3 hours = 24 } } } #country votes no
}
}
if = {
limit = {
AND = {
HUN = { has_completed_focus = HUN_reintegrate_the_railroads }
AUS = { has_opinion = { target = HUN value > 75 } }
}
}
random_list = {
95 = { AUS = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.2 hours = 24 } } } #country votes yes
5 = { AUS = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.3 hours = 24 } } } #country votes no
}
}
}

Austria has a 80% chance to allow the referendum, and then 70% to vote yes (80% if the railroads focus was taken). So the total chance of a positive outcome of that focus is 56% and 64%, respectively.

But even if they vote no, Hungary always declares and you could send them some volunteers and like someone else suggested here in the thread. The AI can be beaten even by a player Hungary with their 30% strength divisions, so even a few full-strength volunteers will make all the difference in the world.

 

[Aeroclub]

If hungary goes down the needed austria-hungary path but fails to defeat austria and so finally gets eaten by germany , everything is still fine for the achievement.
You can just conquer the world ( there is anyway an achievement for that) and then liberate hungary in a peacedeal and grand them the austrian cores. It will then pick the unification focus at some point.
I did this achievement so in my run for the other ottoman AV.

Yeah but they still need to pick the Balanced Budget in the first place, otherwise they will be locked out of that part of the tree.