Purifyer Synths? (Killer robots)

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So long we have endured mutants, a fold of skin not quite the same as myself. Tentacles of unequal length. Hair with a different number of strands than myself. We have been assured this is necessary, but no longer. No more will such heresy be allowed.
Just as such foolish allowance for racial impurity was disgusting, it was also untenable.

Now finally. Everyone has the same material shells, Koronkiyi-Katala processors, all of the same manufacture down to the last nanite! The same sentient programming made by Paradox..
Finally. Total unity. And let those alien lovers choke to death on the awareness that we can now live perfectly on EVERY world. Aliens were never anything but repellant, now they are trash in the most simple of ways by being superfluous even on the coldest arctic worlds where we can thrive better than they ever could.

Time for all organic life to DIE!

I was hoping for a xenophobe-militarist-materialist setup wherein we eventually all become synths.
Combining the Fanatical Purifier civic with Mechanist so as to really speed up towards this intermediate goal to enable all the other goals.

Colonization i take it takes the form of warfare->invasion->cleansing->colonize. Endless war against all the rest of the galaxy. Eventually making the galaxy safe by being utterly and wonderfully alone :)

....and then convert all suns into dyson spheres, and where available build rings around. Would be neat to fly those oversized UFOs beyond the rim to look for MORE biological filth to wipe out. Ohwell.
 

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Oh and what happens to racial traits when you become a synth?
Wouldnt make sense to wipe the slate, they are as much culture as racial ability..
Or should you somehow develop mutation techs for more racial traits.. well.. lets call it a mandatory optimization upgrade. Those who refuse are mutants and will be destroyed? ;)
 

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You do loose racial traits on Upload. But you do get a very powerfull set instead, including unaging leaders and +20% on every resource that still maters.

The thing is that Xenophobia does not apply from or too robots. Xenophobia is Biological in nature, not Cultural. And uploading eliminates all semblance of difference in Biology.
You can fully select wich species to upload (only thos with Cybernetics will go that final step).

AFAIK fanatical purufiers must pick fan. xenophobe + militarist. No points left for materialist.
But here is the thing: You can swap ethics and civics later.

A Fan Xenophobe/Materialist could go the Robot Ascension path. And then flip over to Militarist/Fan Xenophobe with Fanatic Purifier and purge the aliens.
However I am uncertain if having robots will not create a considerable Materialist Ethics atraction.
 

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You do loose racial traits on Upload. But you do get a very powerfull set instead, including unaging leaders and +20% on every resource that still maters.

The thing is that Xenophobia does not apply from or too robots. Xenophobia is Biological in nature, not Cultural. And uploading eliminates all semblance of difference in Biology.
You can fully select wich species to upload (only thos with Cybernetics will go that final step).


But here is the thing: You can swap ethics and civics later.

A Fan Xenophobe/Materialist could go the Robot Ascension path. And then flip over to Militarist/Fan Xenophobe with Fanatic Purifier and purge the aliens.
However I am uncertain if having robots will not create a considerable Materialist Ethics atraction.

I am willing to bet fanatic purifier must be selected at start but nothing to stop you from embracing materialist getting the accession perks then switching back.
 

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I am willing to bet fanatic purifier must be selected at start but nothing to stop you from embracing materialist getting the accession perks then switching back.
It was introduce in the same section as Synchretic Evolution and Machinists wich both have "must be choose at start" and "can not be unchoosen" explicitly mentioned. It did not.

I asume going full Fan Pury is on the ways the Commonwealth of Man could develop.
 

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You cannot start with Puifier and Machinist, but it shold be possible to start as Purifier, then boost the materialist faction (losing the effects of Purifier whilst you lack the ethics, but it should not remove itself from your governent), go synth ascension and then promote Xenophobe again.
 

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Is Materialist or Machinists required to do robot Ascension? If not then you could just play as a Fanatical Purifier, beeline robot ascension, and then kill all organic life.
 

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Is Materialist or Machinists required to do robot Ascension? If not then you could just play as a Fanatical Purifier, beeline robot ascension, and then kill all organic life.
No and no. I just played a game of fanatical purifier robots, although the unbidden spawned in my borders while I was in another war and annihilated me. :(

Be aware that non-materialists cannot grant robots citizenship until the robotic ascension path is completed, so you may get negative events from having synthetic slaves and the AI rebellion may trigger. Also be aware that having robot pops boosts materialist attraction in your empire, although the materialist faction's desires should be almost entirely compatible with the fanatical purifier playstyle. You won't be able to fulfill all their objectives since these include research agreements, but you can get them to something like 65% happiness easily.

During my game I had Horizon Signal trigger after having completed my ascension path, and the event chain wound up adding the "intelligent" trait to my robot pops, which was amazing. It also made them all pacifists, which was less amazing, but they all joined an economic faction so it worked out okay.
 

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Pacifist intelligent fanatical purifier robots? :eek:
 

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I'm trying in one of my games to exterminate all organic life as synth. It's quite fun. But I don't have the purifier trait, because I didn't know we could take it with the synthetic path. Not sure I would have taken it if I knew though. Because it's too much based on expansion, and that's not what I'm looking for with my synths. I prefer optimization. Plus my goal is to exterminate all organic life in the galaxy, not to conquer it. So I have only 10 systems and around 15 planets (with a 1000 stars galaxy), but I got the second most powerful fleet of the galaxy (the first is an AFE).
 

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AFAIK fanatical purufiers must pick fan. xenophobe + militarist. No points left for materialist.
I was hoping I'd be able to also pick spiritualist , figured the ones most Likely to purge the galaxy of alien filth are xenophobic spiritualists
 

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To be honest I would avoid using the synth ascension at the moment.

Its insanely buggy.
 

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Be aware that non-materialists cannot grant robots citizenship until the robotic ascension path is completed, so you may get negative events from having synthetic slaves and the AI rebellion may trigger.
Do robot Ascension without actually building any robots ever. Fixed.
 

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Is Materialist or Machinists required to do robot Ascension? If not then you could just play as a Fanatical Purifier, beeline robot ascension, and then kill all organic life.
Nope, no prerequisites, except the tech, so you can do it as FP
If it wasn't for tech lock, you could do it with spiritualist even
 

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finally near success... (no more biolife, just the ascended (former bugs now robots) and 3 different kinds of synths (all actually the same.. go figure) along with half a dozen robots)
one awakened xenophile FE, one rim-empire (weak!) and a collection of remnants... oh and the pretorians.

Naturally they all are constantly attacking me. Except the pretorians that appear to have vanished once i killed 6 or so of their rather weak fleets (got 2*150k of lances, lasers, disruptors and cannons, lot of shields). Hell 140k fleets barely lost 3k slaying their 60-75k fleets.