Puppets and Peace Conferences

[Anichent]

I don't think this has been answered, and since we don't know if there will be a DD on Puppets I thought I'd ask,

1) Can puppets make demands at peace conferences?

2) If not, can parent countries of puppets collect the victory points of puppets and make demands for the puppets if they chose using that combined pool?

 

[Qemarar]

Personally I don't want puppets being able to make demands. I hope the peace system is similar to EU4 where we can transfer province occupation to allies/puppets.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Personally I don't want puppets being able to make demands. I hope the peace system is similar to EU4 where we can transfer province occupation to allies/puppets.

we can actually flip controll over controlled states to others. There is an button for that in the diplomacy screen, where you can ask for controll over an state aswell. That only works if you are allied or in the same faction, tho. Occupation is actually pretty much gone, since the controll of an province directly changes to you if your troops move in. You still have to demand the state in peace deals in order to own it tho.

 

[Anichent]

The way I'm sort of hoping puppets turn out is:

- they don't control territory unless they have a core on it, instead control goes to parent country
- they cannot make demands in peace conferences, but their parent country can make demands that territory go to them
- their warscore goes to the parent countries war score in a combined pool for the purpose of peace conferences
- territory can be transferred to them in peace time.
- when we release puppets we decide how much of their cored territory they get, example hypothetical: defeat Soviet Union, release Georgia, choose whether state of Abkazia goes to them or not.

Maybe even that they can have coups which a) gives them the choice to declare war for independence on parent country and b) gives parent country choice not to declare war and just let them be independent.

Not sure which of the answers we know for sure yet. I hope we get a DD on puppets that clarifies it. Puppets in HOI4 are a mystery but a pretty important aspect of every HOI round I play.

 

[LordOfWar16]

@Anichent i would also like to be able to found clientstates like in EUIV. So basicly if you, as germany, take everything west from the urals you can then creat clientstates and assign states to them to A: lower unrest, B: put less stress on your national unity and C: let them handle the built up in the east, while you focus on the western front and D: somewhat recreate the historical plans for the eastern territory, for example.

They would of couse be completly generic national focus wise, with maybe their equipment and uniforms being adopted from the germans, since they are their puppets. They would be highly loyal of course, since they are essentially ruled by diplomats from their parent country.

Regular puppets should have the ability to be supported in their independence, i totaly agree.