Puppet England

[deadmeat1471]

A friend was playing a game as the Nazis, simple problem. Neither Mosley's brown shirts nor anyone else become leader of puppet ENGLAND.

May be bug, may be not done (P.s if you need help with fascist ENGLISH leaders ill have a research if needed and post ideas)

 

[unmerged(189717)]

Are you talking about England or the United Kingdom?

 

[mvsnconsolegene]

England is still blank...

- MVSN

 

[deadmeat1471]

Are you talking about England or the United Kingdom?

See above post :rofl:

 

[unmerged(138184)]

You could probably mod this in 5 minutes or so. Just copy minister, leader, and tech team files from UK over to England.

 

[unmerged(189717)]

You could probably mod this in 5 minutes or so. Just copy minister, leader, and tech team files from UK over to England.

Not needed - there is a mod adding extra ministers and leaders for England. See my signature.

 

[deadmeat1471]

Good job Leo. I wonder if the devs would place these in the game? as it seems silly to have such a major country and group not in the vanilla game.

 

[Pioniere]

Yes give us England with shooting mosleys

:rofl:

 

[mvsnconsolegene]

Good job Leo. I wonder if the devs would place these in the game? as it seems silly to have such a major country and group not in the vanilla game.

Ummm...

I think the difficulty is that the UK and any fascist "England" would share ministers and leaders.

I ran into this problem with my mod. And had to craft an event whereby the existance of a fascist England triggers the "sleeping" of all fascist ministers in the UK.

Questions is...what about the miiltary leaders?! I have no idea if any had fascist leanings...

- MVSN

 

[unmerged(189717)]

Ummm...

I think the difficulty is that the UK and any fascist "England" would share ministers and leaders.

I ran into this problem with my mod. And had to craft an event whereby the existance of a fascist England triggers the "sleeping" of all fascist ministers in the UK.

- MVSN

This should be okay. It is pretty unlikely that Germany has a puppet fascist England (that should be the main purpose for that puppet) and the "United" Kingdom is FA/NS too.

 

[Syntalynder]

In any case, Mosley would not have become leader.

Nazi war records show in the plans for an invasion of the UK that German forces were to install a government headed by Lord Halifax, ensuring a semblancy of order, albeit, a puppet nation.
The last thing they wanted to do was inflame the population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aonZfBkPnMA

 

[mvsnconsolegene]

This should be okay. It is pretty unlikely that Germany has a puppet fascist England (that should be the main purpose for that puppet) and the "United" Kingdom is FA/NS too.

Yeah, my main concern was the military leaders, not the ministers.

One of many reasons I never released my mod (although I will note, as far as difficulty goes, it is still much harder than any build of HoI2, AoD included)...

- MVSN

 

[mvsnconsolegene]

In any case, Mosley would not have become leader.

Nazi war records show in the plans for an invasion of the UK that German forces were to install a government headed by Lord Halifax, ensuring a semblancy of order, albeit, a puppet nation.
The last thing they wanted to do was inflame the population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aonZfBkPnMA

Sorry for the double post. Their was widespread disagreement on who exactly would be best to "lead" the UK should Germany have succeeded with Operation Sea Lion.

Generally, the Germans tried to convince non-fascists to "lead" the State and Government of occupied countries to give the appearance of sovereignty and independence. However, as with Croatia, it was not always possible to convince "respected" politicians to become puppets. In the case of Denmark, it was possible (for a time at least).

The Army, Chancellery, RHSA, and Party were all pushing a different person to become Prime Minister of a post-war and german occupied england.

In the event I crafted, I allow the player to choose.

- MVSN

 

[deadmeat1471]

Ummm...

I think the difficulty is that the UK and any fascist "England" would share ministers and leaders.

I ran into this problem with my mod. And had to craft an event whereby the existance of a fascist England triggers the "sleeping" of all fascist ministers in the UK.

Questions is...what about the miiltary leaders?! I have no idea if any had fascist leanings...

- MVSN

True it may require some research and/or guess work, also couldnt you simply clone ministers? different ID's but exactly same name and stats, which only awake with fascism in England?

The Army, Chancellery, RHSA, and Party were all pushing a different person to become Prime Minister of a post-war and german occupied england.

In the event I crafted, I allow the player to choose.

Ps I like your option of this.

 

[Pioniere]

Eng

Ummm...

I think the difficulty is that the UK and any fascist "England" would share ministers and leaders.

I ran into this problem with my mod. And had to craft an event whereby the existance of a fascist England triggers the "sleeping" of all fascist ministers in the UK.

Questions is...what about the miiltary leaders?! I have no idea if any had fascist leanings...

- MVSN

Well we could move some minister out from UK and add them to England.
The Nazis was more interested to work with established politicians this nation could have altered version of Halifax and Stanly Baldwin as paternal autocrats. But good old crazy Mob Mosley must have seat in the new government its hoi2 flavor
I Also think that England should have core on Wales but dont need it for being being liberated.

 

[unmerged(197229)]

In any case, Mosley would not have become leader.

Nazi war records show in the plans for an invasion of the UK that German forces were to install a government headed by Lord Halifax, ensuring a semblancy of order, albeit, a puppet nation.
The last thing they wanted to do was inflame the population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aonZfBkPnMA

Maybe when you create the puppet England an event should fire, letting You choose between Mosley (whit high partisan activity in puppet England but with 2 or 3 division of Inf. and constantly creating new units to help Germans, leaving UK ministers intact) and Lord Halifax (whit no partisan activity, no army and only building garrison units for self defense, but transferring some ministers to the puppet England), anyways just a thought.